Real Talk with Reginald D: What Religion Got Wrong About Faith

"God is 99.5% better than your current bandwidth about Him." In this powerful guest appearance on Real Talk with Reginald D, Kristen Wambach pulls back the curtain on what it truly means to bridge heaven and earth. From the dirt of an Oregon farm to the 50-yard line of a supernatural encounter, Kristen shares her journey of unlearning religious dogma to find the "C♡♡Lness" of the Spirit.
Whether you feel stuck in "grind mode" or are yearning for a deeper perception of the angelic realm, this episode offers a divine blueprint for restoration and oneness.

Episode Summary
​In this soul-stirring conversation on Real Talk with Reginald D, Kristen Wambach—ordained pastor, author, and spiritual coach—shares her radical journey from a traditional evangelical upbringing on an Oregon farm to a life-altering encounter with the Holy Spirit. Kristen discusses the "painful yet lonely" process of unlearning religious dogma to discover the raw truth of Jesus. She provides practical keys for living "Spiritually Brave," overcoming church hurt, and recognizing the immense goodness of God. The highlight of the episode features a supernatural testimony of angelic encounters on a high school football field that will challenge your perception of the veil between heaven and earth.

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The Rhema Shift: Moving from the Letter to the Spirit. This episode is a primary case study in how the Rhema Mind rewrites your life.

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Highlight Subjects

• The Transition from Evangelicalism to Mysticism: Unlearning dogma to find truth.
• Spiritual Bravery: Defining and practicing it in daily life.
• The "Womb of God": Understanding our identity and oneness with Christ.
• Angelic Ministry: A firsthand account of the "Cassion" armored angels.
• Overcoming Dyslexia: How God used a "broken" tool to author books.

Growing up at the end of the Oregon Trail on a 92-acre farm, I learned the value of hard work and getting my fingers dirty. But nothing prepared me for the "transformation on steroids" that began in my 30s. For years, I lived within the safe, predictable boundaries of evangelical tradition. I knew the scriptures, I led the ministries, and I checked the boxes. But there was a persistent whisper from the Holy Spirit that eventually became impossible to ignore: There is more.

I could never outrun God even if I was misbehaving. He will never stop speaking to me." —Kristen Wambach

The Shift from Religion to Relationship

Many of us are raised with a "religion relationship"—a set of rules, a specific way to pray, and a ceiling on what we are allowed to experience. When I finally surrendered my broken parts to the Holy Spirit, my spiritual eyes were opened. Suddenly, the seated Christ wasn't just a theological concept; He was a present reality.
Religion often tries to keep God "inside the camp," confined to the pulpit and the pews. But as I shared with Reginald, God’s presence has always been found "outside the camp." When we move into true Oneness with Him, we stop asking "What would Jesus do?" and start asking "Who does Jesus say that I AM?" This shift moves us from a Logos mind (information) to a Rhema mind (revelation).

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Podcast Episode Transcript: Real Talk with Reginald DGuest Feature: Pastor Kristen Wambach Subject: What Religion Got Wrong About Faith

[0:00] Reginald D: [Music] The Real Talk with Reginald D. I'm your host, Reginald D. On today's episode, I have Kristen Wambach. Kristen is an Oregon farm girl who stumbled upon the mystical nature of Christ, which I can't wait to hear about. Kristen is also an author, podcaster, entrepreneur, and an ordained pastor that helps people live spiritually brave. Welcome to the show, Kristen.
[0:25] Kristen Wambach: Thank you for having me. Hello. Thank you.
[0:29] Reginald D: Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm excited about it. We're going to have a good time.
[0:34] Kristen Wambach: Yes.
[0:35] Reginald D: So, I'd like to start out with one question with my guest. Can you tell us a little bit about your childhood and where you grew up?
[0:43] Kristen Wambach: I was raised at the end of the Oregon Trail on a 92-acre farm. I have three brothers. I have four sons. And I've been married to my husband, Don, for 42 years. I have been surrounded by testosterone for a very long time. That's all I know.
[1:05] Reginald D: Yeah. Yeah. So, the farm, you had all those acres of land. What was on the farm?
[1:13] Kristen Wambach: Well, my father, who was a grocer, was a gentleman farmer. They raised Hereford and Black Angus cows and purebred Arabian horses. We patted hay and put up hay in the summer and had a pond and lived on a gravel road, so I know how to get my fingers dirty.
[1:39] Reginald D: I call that the good life. Yes. So Kristen, you describe your journey as "transformation on steroids." What moment or experience flipped the switch and changed what you used to say yes to spiritually and mentally?
[1:57] Kristen Wambach: Okay. So, let me see. I'm 30 years old, walked through my 20s never really asking God for His opinion. I'm married, have two sons already, and I discovered that I was kind of a broken individual. So, faithfully, Holy Spirit pursued me as Holy Spirit does until we begin to listen. And from that journey of listening, I met Holy Spirit—which was not part of my evangelical generational background. A relationship with Holy Spirit, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, that just wasn't there. So it was a new discovery.
From there, Holy Spirit healed my heart, filled my heart, changed everything. I’m seeking and on fire and loving God. And then all of a sudden, I think I'm about 31, 32, and God opens my spiritual eyes and changed everything. Changed everything. When you can see and develop your spiritual eyes in the spirit, everything is just different. Scripture is different. How you pray is different. How you incorporate the angelic in your life. How you perceive Him as a risen King seated at the right hand of the Father—and now you can actually perceive that. You perceive yourself seated in heavenly places. These are things that scriptures told us about, but now my eyes are open and Holy Spirit is teaching me how to develop that.
So things that I knew from my evangelical growing up have totally flipped. I began this journey of discovering the faith of my fathers and then all of a sudden asking Truth Himself, which is Jesus Christ: "Is this true? Is this true?" And so many things were not true.
[4:19] Reginald D: Wow. So He literally just changed everything.
[4:23] Kristen Wambach: And at times it was extremely overwhelming. At times it was painful. It was lonely. I was misinterpreted, misdiagnosed, labeled. It wasn't very fun at times. But what I learned—and am learning continuing on the journey—is that He leads us into all truth.
[4:52] Reginald D: Exactly. And I think the biggest thing is having the personal relationship, not the religion relationship, right? The personal relationship will show you the way and open up your eyes.
[5:05] Kristen Wambach: So the last 15 years I have been teaching people how to hear God, perceive God, and open up their spiritual eyes. That is my story in a nutshell.
[5:21] Reginald D: So Kristen, you talked about living spiritually brave. For someone listening who feels distant from God, disappointed, or stuck in survival mode, what does living spiritually brave practically look like?
[5:36] Kristen Wambach: There have been many times where I have felt disconnected or distant from God. And in and through relationship, I learned over time that that wasn't the truth. It wasn't truth. I could never outrun God if I was misbehaving. I could never disassociate myself from Him. He will never stop speaking to me. Through relationship I learned to identify what was a lie, what was a feeling, and talk to Holy Spirit. I had to honor Him in me and address the feelings or the misconceptions that might be going around in my head.
[6:37] Reginald D: Yeah. Can I say one thing about myself? You know, I felt distanced from God at one point in my life because I was stuck in the grind mode. I moved away, had this new career, trying to make things happen. I was just trying to grind and be successful. But after it all settled down, I was like, whoa, I'm burned out. I'm tired. I had to reel that thing back in.
[7:12] Kristen Wambach: But Holy Spirit is so faithful. Jesus is walking with us every step of the way. There are days where we can get caught up and busy and forget to actually check in, say hello, or thank you for being here. Let's just calm back down. Let's get on the same page, the same frequency, and move through this day because He made the day for us. He knows why we might be stuck. It benefits me to speak with Him.
[7:59] Reginald D: Right. Exactly. So you believe we can design our lives, relationships, finances, and self-care from the vine of who we are. How does someone begin to discover their own divine blueprint?
[8:15] Kristen Wambach: First, as what we were discussing: inviting Him into the conversation and inviting yourself into His conversation about you. That's always the first way to start a day. It’s the first thing to do on any journey we feel called to. I mean if it's finances or you're an entrepreneur—I have five online stores—and Holy Spirit is so simple and so practical.
Now, my husband and I on the journey way back when, right there in that mix of discovering God, we lost our auto repair business, lost our farm, and none of that felt good. It was really, really difficult. But it was right there in that mix of surrender—surrendering those broken parts and allowing Holy Spirit to have a conversation with me about the broken parts. That relationship is something else.
[9:49] Reginald D: So, you have coached, pastored, mentored, and guided so many people. In your experience, what gift do most people fail to recognize in themselves?
[10:05] Kristen Wambach: How good God is. We fail to realize that Jesus and us came from the same womb. Born from the same womb of God. Jesus was there; we're all in the same womb and birthed from the same place that Jesus was. And God lives in us. 100% of God. The same 100% of God that lived in Jesus Christ—the same amount is in us.
I constantly ask myself when a situation comes, even if it's a simple feeling of feeling uncomfortable: "Wow, how good is God in this situation?" And 99% of the time, God is so much better than my current bandwidth about Him.
[11:23] Reginald D: Yeah. He says His thoughts and ways are not our ways. So let me ask this, Kristen. So many people have been disappointed by God. I grew up in a legacy of pastors; my grandfather built his own churches. But now, you hear people say they are hurt by church or feel spiritually disconnected. How can someone overcome that?
[11:54] Kristen Wambach: I'm going to go all the way back to the beginning where I said I came from being surrounded by testosterone—which a majority of the church is led by. I understand that we, as the church, don't always identify each person in the fullness that God made them to be. I understand being hurt because where I came from, it was okay if I was in the choir, or lead worship, or led women's ministry, or the nursery. But it wasn't okay for me to stand behind a pulpit.
That didn't feel good. But Jesus leads us into all truth. If I keep inside of me the wonderful glories that grace has allowed me to experience, what's the purpose of the gift? If I don't open my mouth and share it? Having your spiritual perceptions developed is for everybody. I'm not just a nut, fruit, and flake. I'm not just a prophetess with an ordained office. No, no. It is for everybody.
I've been in so many services where all of a sudden these angels are coming into the service and people are oblivious. We need to know this. They come to help and uplift and heal. Are we going to remain in a place of blindness because doctrine says we need to be blind? Or are we going to be brave and let Him lead us into things we don't understand?
[14:55] Reginald D: That's so well put. Especially with you being a pastor. People go through hurt and have to deal with the biggest thing that comes after: forgiveness. Why is forgiveness so important in spiritual growth?
[15:19] Kristen Wambach: Well, the first person that I find is the best to forgive is myself. Because I’m either pigeonholed in the corner refusing to deal with what’s hurting me, or I can be brave and realize how many times Jesus has forgiven me. It makes you love Him so much more because you can remember what you've been forgiven from. That empowers me to love people when they're not nice.
Years ago, I worked really, really hard to get "in" the church. I worked to study, prophesy on cue, and lay hands on the sick. And after all those years, Jesus and I were out on a walk and He kind of went: "Do you know what? God's presence was never inside the camp. The tent meeting has always been outside the camp."
[17:15] Reginald D: Right. You're right. That's why so many people miss it. So, what advice would you give someone who feels like they've been spiritually stuck?
[17:28] Kristen Wambach: I think I might rearrange the word from "spiritually," because our spirits are never stuck. Our spirits were never polluted. Our spirits are always pure because that is our oneness with Him. So if I feel stuck, I have to look at what my mind is spending time on, what my calendar is spending time on, and the choices of the people that are around me. It comes down to boundaries.
Being in conversation with the Lord gets me unstuck. But there's a flip side—sometimes it's a season we're supposed to remain in because that's where we're going to grow. He is more concerned about my growth than He is about my comfort.
[19:12] Reginald D: Yes. That takes me to my next question. You mix spirituality with entrepreneurship—"Word flow meets life flow." What does it look like to build a business with God, not just for God?
[19:26] Kristen Wambach: Exciting, fun, difficult, simple. How I learned to hear God was through journaling. I wrote things down. Every time I had a perception or heard a scripture, I’d write it down. And that place of honor grew. When you write things down, God honors that you're listening.
In Malachi, it says God has a book of remembrance. God kept asking Jeremiah, "What do you see?" Well, I wrote it down. That journaling created the workflow and life flow. It was like, "Wow, look at all these templates I built. These would help other people." That was the beginning. These words written down filled my first book. So God called me to be an author before He healed my dyslexia.
[21:18] Reginald D: Wow.
[21:19] Kristen Wambach: Being so dyslexic, words and reading were uncomfortable, yet God called me to be a writer. Go figure.
[21:35] Reginald D: Yes, I really like that. So, what's your favorite story from the unfinished book?
[21:46] Kristen Wambach: Favorite story? Oh, okay. I haven't told this one for a while. Years ago, I went to a women's ministry at a very popular church in Redding, California. The pastor's wife got up and told this story about a ministry student. The student woke up and God said, "I want you to go to Moriah Chapel [in Wales] and say 'Wakey Wakey'." She screams it three times, and then the angel from the Welsh revival appeared.
Now, here I am hearing a story like this. What do you think the first thing is I’m going to do when I get home to Corvallis, Oregon? I’m thinking, where can I do this? I head for the football field at the high school at 10:00 at night. My third-born son grabs his skateboard and comes with me.
I walk out to the 50-yard line, this fire-breathing woman for God, and I scream at the top of my lungs, "Wakey Wakey" three times. All of a sudden, the hair on the back of my neck just rose up. This huge angel, taller than the goalpost, full armored—looked like a samurai kind of guy—just appears. Every hair on my body is standing up. I asked him what his name was. His name was Quesan. (Meaning the armored vehicle that carries the armor of an army). I was just on cloud ten.
About four weeks go by. I’m driving my little 1989 Saab convertible in downtown Corvallis. I go by the historic courthouse and see this senior man dragging one of those huge crosses on a wheel. I pull over. He’s a retired police chief who has prayed over every courthouse in Oregon. We go up the steps to pray. I told him, "I’m going to yell something loud." I yelled "Wakey Wakey" right there at noon on the courthouse steps.
Whoosh. Another one of those armored angels just steps through the veil. He looks at me and goes, "Oh, I heard about you." Because he was in the same order as the angel from the football field.
[30:57] Reginald D: Wow, that's amazing.
[31:02] Kristen Wambach: That’s a favorite story in my book. I’ve since learned I don’t have to yell anymore, but wow, that was amazing. God is moving in your city.
[31:34] Reginald D: So Kristen, lastly, how can listeners purchase your book, listen to your podcast, or follow you?
[31:43] Kristen Wambach: My book, The Unfinished Book—the "F" is turned around because of the dyslexia secret—you can find it on Amazon or Barnes & Noble. You can find me at KristenWambach.com, and I have a podcast called Interviewing Jesus.
[32:19] Reginald D: There you have it, Kristen Wambach. Thank you so much. Your story is amazing.
[32:37] Reginald D: Thanks for listening to Real Talk with Reginald D. Please rate and review on Apple Podcasts. See you next time.
[32:49] [Applause/Music]

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Living Spiritually Brave is inviting yourself into God’s conversation about you." —Kristen Wambach

What it Means to Live Spiritually Brave
​Living "Spiritually Brave" isn't about the absence of fear or the lack of feeling disconnected. It’s about the refusal to believe the lie of distance. As an experienced spiritual coach, I’ve seen so many people stuck in "survival mode," feeling burned out by the grind of life. Bravery is the act of inviting yourself into God’s conversation about you. It’s recognizing that you were birthed from the same divine womb as Jesus and carry the same 100% of God within you.

The Reality of the SupernaturalOne of the most profound lessons I’ve learned is that the supernatural is intended to be practical. Whether I am managing my five online stores or praying on a courthouse step, the Holy Spirit is simple and practical. I shared a story on the podcast about a season where I felt misunderstood. I took a leap of faith on a football field in Corvallis, Oregon, yelling "Wakey Wakey" into the night—a simple act of spiritual hunger. What happened next—the appearance of a massive, armored angel named Quesan—wasn't just a "cool story." It was a reminder that we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses and heavenly support designed to help us navigate our earthly calling.

Healing from the Inside Out
​If you feel stuck, it’s rarely your spirit that is the problem. Your spirit is pure, unpolluted, and in constant oneness with the Father. Usually, the "stuckness" is in our mind, our soul, or our boundaries. Healing begins with forgiveness—starting with ourselves. When we realize how much we’ve been forgiven, we gain the capacity to love the "unbecoming" people around us and step into our divine blueprint.
As a trusted Christian voice and transformational leader, my mission is to help you bridge the gap between heaven and earth. God is so much better than your current bandwidth for Him. Are you ready to be brave enough to believe that?

The Rhema Shift & Religious Deconstruction

"Synthesizing 30 years of biblical authority, Kristen Wambach maps the vital journey from religious obligation to an intimate, lived relationship with Jesus. This pillar explores the 'Rhema Mind'—shifting from a stagnant knowledge of the Word to a dynamic, supernatural engagement with the heart of God."

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From Oregon Farm Girl to Spiritual Authority: Pastor Kristen Wambach Challenges Religious Dogma on "Real Talk with Reginald D" Podcast
​CORVALLIS, OR — Ordained Pastor, transformation coach, and acclaimed author Kristen Wambach recently joined the Real Talk with Reginald D podcast for a soul-stirring conversation that is dismantling traditional religious boundaries. In the episode, "What Religion Got Wrong About Faith," Wambach shares her radical "transformation on steroids," moving listeners from the burnout of religious "grind mode" into the vibrant reality of spiritual bravery.
As the host of the Interviewing Jesus Podcast and a trusted voice on divine connection for over 40 years, Kristen Wambach brings a unique perspective to the modern faith landscape. During the interview, she details her journey of unlearning evangelical dogma to discover a "Rhema" relationship with Christ—a transition that led to miraculous encounters, including a remarkable testimony of meeting armored angels on a local high school football field.

“God is 99% of the time so much better than our current bandwidth about Him,” says Wambach. “We’ve spent so much time trying to keep God ‘inside the camp’ of our church buildings, but His presence has always been found where the hungry are—outside the camp.”Key highlights from the episode include:

• The Divine Blueprint: How to design your life, finances, and business from a place of "Oneness" with God.
• Spiritual Bravery: Practical tools for those feeling distant from God or stuck in survival mode.
• The "Cassion" Encounter: A firsthand account of the angelic realm and the thinning veil between heaven and earth.
• Healing Through Dyslexia: Wambach shares how God called her to be a writer before healing her dyslexia, a story featured in her work, The Unfinished Book.

Kristen Wambach is an expert in bridging the gap between heaven and earth, simplifying supernatural experiences for entrepreneurs and spiritual seekers alike. Her mission is to empower individuals to connect with their God-inspired "DNA" calling and live a life infused with purpose, authenticity, and divine wisdom.
The episode is available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and KristenWambach.com.
About Kristen Wambach
​Kristen Wambach is an ordained pastor, transformation coach, and the author of The Unfinished Book. With over 40 years of experience as a ministry leader and 20 years teaching people to engage heaven, she is a recognized authority on Oneness and connection with God. She hosts the Interviewing Jesus Podcast, offering essential lifestyle tools for personal development and supernatural growth.