"How Good is God!" with Kristen Wambach
KRISTEN WAMBACH: EXPERT ON THE SUPERNATURAL REALITY
We are spiritual beings that live in a body. If God is a spirit, he’s going to talk a language here. Don’t you think we should learn that language so he can speak to us?" — Kristen Wambach
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Synthesizing 30 years of ministry leadership and 20 years of transformational coaching, Kristen Wambach shares exclusive insights on the Global Top 2.5% ranked podcast Perspective with Viv (according to Listen Notes). In this high-authority session, Kristen discusses her 400-page investigative work, How Good is God, providing a practical path with raw stories and simple activations for those ready to challenge limitations and transcend religious boundaries.
As a spiritual investigative journalist, Kristen moves beyond dry theology to testify to the redemptive nature of Christ. This conversation leads with hope, offering a safe path for the reader’s heart to navigate the mystical and practical nature of heaven-to-earth living on a globally recognized media platform. |
THE CORE REVELATIONS
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Ep. 181. In this enlightening interview, Kristen Wambach talks about her newly released book "How Good is God!"
She explores profound spiritual concepts, including past death experiences, the nature of divine consciousness, and the transformative power of faith. She shares personal encounters, biblical insights, and practical tools to help listeners expand their understanding of God's goodness and their spiritual potential. Kristen's Bio Kristen Wambach is an Oregon farm girl who stumbled upon the mystical nature of Christ. She's an author, Podcaster, Entrepreneur, and Ordained Pastor, helping you Live Spiritually BRAVE. |
Jesus is not here to impress us; He is here to persuade us about us. He will take us to the lowest realms to show us our freedom because His goodness is far beyond our current bandwidth." — Kristen Wambach
The PTE (Past Death Experience):
Kristen introduces a radical shift from "near-death" to "past death" logic. Because Jesus died as us, we are already positioned on the other side of death’s authority. This realization is the first step in eradicating the permission of decay in our daily lives.
The Sonar of the Spirit:
Using the metaphor of a submarine, Kristen explains how our spirit "pings" the environment. By learning to perceive the goodness of God in the unseen, we can adjust our internal molecular frequency to match the reality of heaven.
Religion is when somebody has an encounter with God and then they camp out there around it and never continue to grow."—Kristen Wambach
The Field of Blood & The Tomb:
Kristen shares first-hand accounts of encountering the lower realms of the earth. She describes the pivotal moment in the tomb where Jesus reclaimed the "dust of the earth," signaling that the physical body no longer falls under the authority of the fall but under the law of restoration.
The Rhema Shift:
A move from Logos (the written story) to Rhema (the shared conversation). Transformation occurs when the ink lifts off the page and becomes the "breath" of a living relationship with the Spirit.
THE PATH TO RESTORATION
- God’s Cinematic Downloads: Recognizing how God uses art, film, and everyday "text messages" to rearrange our logic and expand our bandwidth for His goodness.
- The Carousel of Agreement: How to stop the repetitive cycles of sickness and ego by aligning with the superior law of the Spirit.
- Communion as Physical Memory: Understanding that as eating brought the fall, the act of Communion allows our bodies to "remember" they are restorable.
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"HOW GOOD IS GOD" | EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Host: Viv
Guest: Kristen Wambach
Viv: Hi everyone, welcome back to the Perspective Viv podcast. My name is Viv and this is the show. Today's title is How Good is God with Kristen Wambach.
Viv: We've had Kristen over here before and now we're going to be talking about her new book. So, let me reintroduce you to her. From her roots as an Oregon farm girl to her evolution as a seasoned transformational leader, Kristen Wambach embodies both the mystical and practical nature of Christ. With over 30 years of experience as an ordained pastor alongside her work as an entrepreneur and CEO, she's living proof of what happens when the goodness of God redefines your yes.
Viv: Kristen is the host of the Interviewing Jesus podcast and the author of the 400-page investigative work, How Good is God. She doesn't simply teach theology; she equips others with a bold unconventional blueprint for those ready to challenge limitations, transcend religious boundaries, and live spiritually brave. A trusted mentor in bridging heaven and earth, Kristen stands as an investigative journalist of the spirit. Hi, Kristen. Thank you for joining me.
Kristen: Hi, Viv. Hi, listeners. So much fun. So excited to be back.
Viv: I'm so excited to have you back. I miss your energy. Oh my goodness. Which is so exciting. Yes. So, let's talk about the book immediately. So, when I started reading it, I definitely—I love the way it's written. I think it's written for me. It's definitely considered non-fiction, but it seemed like fiction to me. The voice of it is very whimsical, very bouncy. Your energy comes through the words. I feel cheered on as you describe things.
Viv: I loved how you started off with the downloads, the text messages from God and how you see art is a beautiful medium, especially film. You use different films and downloads from films to, you know, send messages across. I love that. Let's talk about that. First of all, tell me about God's text messages.
Kristen: Well, it happened exactly as I wrote it one night. It was super blustery out and I'm trying to figure out how am I going to squish all of this into a book. How am I going to squish this? And God woke me up five times. And one of the times my son, our oldest son who's a Marine, he texted dad at 2 in the morning. And so he was part of the whole God saying, "Hello, let's rearrange the book this way."
Kristen: But it was so important for me to set a timeline for people, for readers. We need to realize what God has done already. Look over the span of our life. How has he been talking? So that we can come to this point. Not a point of agreement necessarily, but a point of okay, this is what God has released thus far. Now, can we talk from here?
Kristen: You know, and that's what the text messages were because God wanted us to say, "Okay, logic, we need to shake you up a little bit and figure out how are we thinking about God's goodness." And that's why the movies that came through that God used in the text message... the movies is kind of like things aren't... we're not broken. It's not hopeless. God is so much better than our bandwidth about him. And so he's challenging our thinking. He wants us to think and then ask him the simple question: "Well, how good are you, God, in this situation?"
Viv: That's a good question and I guess that's what we're about to find out from your perspective as we talk more about it. So, I love your description and for me so many things to take from it at first read. I liked the football terminology that you used. Oh my goodness. I have a question on it. Let me find it. So you often use football metaphors. The red zone, the end zone, suiting up. How does a sports mindset help a person move from being a spectator in the pews to actually experiencing the supernatural?
Kristen: So I had all these encounters. I knew that I needed to share. That was my passion. I had to share my encounters in the lower realms of the earth. Like nobody talks about this stuff, you know? Nobody talks about encountering Jesus in the tomb and asking the question, "Hey, what happened for those three days?" Hello, what happened those three days when you were in the tomb before when Holy Spirit came and resurrected you? I mean, what happened?
Kristen: And so much significantly happened there. And so, I had to ask that. So you take these mystical encounters and if people aren't used to the mystical or the supernatural, when you put them in a structure like football it helps them to unpack them. And that's the reason why I used football. It all started with—I absolutely love coaching quotes. They motivate me. They speak my language. You know, Vince Lombardi, he speaks my language. I understand it and it motivates me. And that's where the whole book started. And then it just developed. And we put mystical things in a structure so people could learn and feel strong and confident in a structure.
Viv: I love that you said that. You put mystical things in a structure for it to be easily assimilated because from the way you described it, my mind is already being held because of the manner with which you're delivering your message. I think the football terminology is very, very good because it cuts across a lot. You know, Americans love football so much—I mean we have the Super Bowl and everything. It's just brilliant, the medium through which you deliver this message because I was hooked already.
Viv: You open the book by saying, "We don't just have it wrong about God's goodness. We were taught a version that missed it entirely." You called this book a manifesto, an epistle. What made you decide the church needed a manifesto right now in 2026?
Kristen: I can't take credit for it like that. It means God kicked my butt and said you have to share. I mean literally the death doctrines themselves. Do we have any idea how many people believe that if a person commits suicide they are doomed to hell? That is so wrong. That is just so wrong. And that's the reason why I had to write my experiences because Jesus showed me specifically his goodness and I encountered it and that had to be changed. I mean, oh, can you imagine being a parent and losing a child that way? And then you feel like there's nothing you can do. That is so... it's wrong. We were taught wrong.
Viv: I feel like even with all of that, I love how you made it clear that people that commit suicide are not necessarily condemned, which calls people to start to request what it is that they've been taught or what it is that they've been indoctrinated with. And that's very important because I get that with your book, with your messages, you're trying to let people see God from a different way that is outside a particular rigid structure. And you're introducing a new structure that feels softer, less condemning, less judging, and a place where they can find belonging without feeling prejudiced against or judged.
Kristen: Yeah. And one of the things about God is sometimes we forget that he's God. We forget that he's a good father. And like a good father, he planned everything so his kids couldn't outrun him. There isn't anything that we can do that will shock God. There isn't anything that we can do that would get him to separate us from his love. Absolutely nothing. And how prideful is it of us to think that we can make a choice to separate ourselves from God? Hello.
Viv: Wow. I love that because I do think he spoke about union in the Bible where he spoke about, you know, you have to become one with God. I'm paraphrasing by taking part of his flesh and drinking his blood, but really what you were explaining was union—that we're being called to be like brothers and sisters as opposed to separate from God as a force. Tell me more about that please.
Kristen: So in communion when we take communion... in a perspective, when Adam fell, when he misjudged God, he did it through eating. Eve ate an apple. She shared an apple with Adam. So through eating mankind fell. So the coolness of God is, well, how does he redeem mankind? It's through communion—through eating. So when we take his flesh and his blood, all of his promises of who he is, when we eat that, that helps our body to remember that it is restorable. God created our body to remember to restore itself and there isn't any portion of our body that cannot remember to restore itself.
Viv: I like that you spoke about how, you know, through eating, drinking, you're becoming in communion and union with Jesus. But through eating the forbidden apple was what brought about separation or the illusion of separation. And obviously our journey is kind of like to return into union with God. Oh, I love that.
Kristen: If you think about our first estate being in him and who Adam was... and he walked with God in the cooler of the day, and Adam walked back and forth between both realms. Enoch walked back and forth between both realms. Jesus today in his resurrected self walks back and forth between both realms. That is what our original estate is supposed to do—to be able to walk with this body, an immortal body, between heaven and earth. Well, yeah, we have a bit to go. We have a bit to change our thinking and the restoration of our body for that to occur. But it's still what Christ did for us. He redeemed us to that.
Viv: Wow. So Christ was a bridge through which we could walk back into union with ourselves. Yes. Because from what I'm getting, the Bible was written for us to know that we are like Jesus. Right. Behold, if Jesus did the work to act as a bridge, it shouldn't be hard for us to go back into union quickly.
Kristen: Well, we think we're outrunning him, which is really silly. Yeah, that's funny. Exactly. But I love that you use that term. We can't outrun God. He wouldn't be God if we could.
Viv: Yes. So maybe attempting to outrun God because I guess a lot of people do end up using distractions to block them from union back with God.
Kristen: Yeah. But God is... he's just better than our bandwidth. And yes, I don't remember what your last question was.
Viv: What made you decide the church needed the manifesto right now?
Kristen: Yes. It's because if God shows you an answer and you encounter an answer, you have to be responsible to share the answer. We just can't keep these things to ourselves. And like in—which chapter is it? I don't remember all the chapters. Oh, there's so many chapters. I encountered people I knew that I knew that I knew that people went to "hell," so to speak. And I knew that that was not God's desire. That wasn't God's plan. And through that I encountered a fabulous testimony where a very dear person to me got healed of stage four breast cancer. Wow. Just because I believed God. And we just can't keep the mystical hidden because it might feel uncomfortable.
Viv: Yes. I love that we can't keep the mystical hidden because it might feel uncomfortable and the mystical seems like a key to true freedom or true realization, actualization of self.
Kristen: Well, everything begins in the unseen. When we get an idea like a book, like this pen, like the car you're driving—all those things were a thought process, an idea that began in somebody's head and you couldn't see the idea. It didn't have a physical form until somebody started go, "Oh, well, what happens if we did it this way?" And they start to put it together. Well, now what began in the unseen is something that is tangible like your pen or your car or your house. Yeah. Einstein talks an awful lot about that.
Viv: So, in the book you talk about the hellgate and the pew gate. Why do you call How Good is God a dangerous book for the modern church?
Kristen: Let me read this. This was my editing team. This is how they described the book. "Most Christian non-fiction play it safe. They either stay in the shallow end of five steps to a better life, yada yada, or they go to the deep end of dry theology. Your book refuses to do either. It is walking right into the field of blood, suicide, hell, the afterlife, unfinished family business, and plants a flag of hope there. It's bold. It's visually cinematic and frankly it is needed." That is where the word dangerous came from.
Viv: Wow. I love that they said that you are putting a flag of hope in the midst of all of that because it reminded me of that text message in which you said, "find Jesus in the midst of offense."
Kristen: So what I have experienced... the redemptive gifts talked about in Romans 12. Those are gifts that are both heaven and earth. They are embedded within us. So I have encountered those gifts through inner healing ministry, but they were in heaven as well. Oh my gosh. So, it was really fun for me to explain them as if they were an instrument or part of a symphony. Because each one of us can relate to a redemptive gift and see ourselves as portions of a symphony because God is orchestrating that perfect harmony when we come into union with one another.
Viv: Interesting. Wow, that's a lot. And I did remember my thoughts. You said that your book on theology is like a white flag in the midst of chaos. And I think that's very profound.
Kristen: That flag stick—which is a golfing term—the flag stick is what marks the hole. For too long we have allowed "death" to say, "This is it. This is your end place. You have to die before you can experience heaven." It's wrong. It's wrong because heaven and hell is a state of consciousness, right?
Kristen: Consciousness is attached to the soul. The soul is to the realm of the earth. But there is more past the consciousness because the consciousness is within the quantum realm. The vibration, the frequency, the sound. But there is—when you step through Jesus Christ himself, the rent veil, his flesh—when you step through that, you go into him, you go beyond the quantum realm.
Kristen: Heaven and hell are—in my experience—they are a place. I've encountered so many places in the lower realm of the earth that have a topography... they have a mass to them. When Jesus took me into the field of blood—the one where Judas expired himself—that shows me that there is a landmass that explains a spiritual place. So that's why with consciousness I am careful, because I think there's so much more to learn.
Viv: Thank you so much for explaining that. So you've coined a term called PTE, Past Death Experience. How is that different from a near-death experience and why is it essential for healing our personal history?
Kristen: Near-death experiences—people are fascinated by them. They have out-of-body experiences, the tunnel of light, the life review. So, I did a play on the words: a Past Death Experience. The reason why I say that is Jesus died for us. He died as us. What part of death are we not freed from? We're past it. Romans 8:2 says, "The law of the spirit of life has set me free from sin and death." Therefore, that is a higher law that eradicates out sin, death, and all their cohorts like sickness and decay.
Kristen: I use the metaphor of a carousel. These gorgeous horses are going round and round, but they're stuck in the cycle. Well, if the law of spirit of life sets you free, all of a sudden the horse can leave the cycle of the carousel. But then there's all these agreements—the ticket master saying, "I've already sold tickets for you." We allow our understanding, our ego, to keep us attached to the cycle of sin and death, and we don't allow the higher law to actually redeem us fully to eradicate sickness from ever having permission to live in our body.
Viv: So, are you saying that because Jesus died for everyone's sins, we've overcome having death and sickness as a limitation? And it's only a level of belief that lets you transcend it?
Kristen: Let's use the word transcend because I don't want to put the pressure on you and me. It's who He is. He cannot not be who He is. He's a good daddy that thought everything out before he sent the kids outside to play. And Jesus's gift is so full that we cannot not receive it. Now we can make a choice of ignoring it or not allowing it to fulfill our life. We do have that free will choice, but it doesn't lessen the fact that the law of the spirit is superior and eradicates death and decay. Peter was told, "on this rock we will build the church and the gates of hell will not prevail." Well, if the gates of hell are not going to prevail, then that means we need to come in and eradicate that the gates even exist.
Viv: So true. You know, what I love about this theory is that it's deeply resonant. It's heavy stuff and that's why your book is 400 pages.
Kristen: It's the encounters that I share. They're so deeply personal. My first love... one day after Jesus had already started me on my "tomb days"—meaning I was learning about the lower realms of the earth—my best friend from high school Facebooked me and she said, "I thought that you should know that Randy committed suicide." I immediately knew in my heart what God was asking me to do: to go get him. I knew that I knew that I knew that he was in hell.
Kristen: When I went to this place—and it was a different typography—when I went to go get Randy, he didn't recognize me at first, but when he did, the first thing that he said out of his mouth is, "I knew that you would come for me." Really? Yes. You can't think this stuff up. It's just so beautiful. So when we are not "near-death," we are past death because of what Jesus did for us. Now, we just need to learn how to live it so that our immortal bodies can begin to manifest.
Viv: What does that look like in practical terms?
Kristen: That's a great question. That's right where I'm asking it. The way that I deal with my own body, like if I have a pain, instead of releasing healing, I speak to it now and I tell the decay to move. Decay go, because I know death and decay do not have a portion in my life. This is just a portion of us retraining our understanding to actually have it manifest.
Kristen: When Jesus took me into the tomb and I was asking him, "well what went on there?" he took me and I literally saw his body sit up and stand up and I saw him fold his head napkin. First thing he did—and it was so odd—he bent over and he grabbed the soil, the dust inside the tomb. And he hits his shoulder with it, like somebody throwing salt over their shoulder for luck. I didn't ask why. I just bent over, grabbed some of the soil, and copied him.
Kristen: After that, he taught me that because he was raised from the dead, he eradicated... because Adam was made from the soil. When he did that, he was telling the dust of the earth, "you no longer have authority over me." I can't explain to you how that all is going to work yet. Well, that's okay. I'm willing to learn. I have seen my 165th birthday.
Viv: What? What did that look like?
Kristen: That's 2079. No—before I saw that, I saw my 121st birthday. On my 50th birthday, the Lord took me and I'm walking on the timeline and you can see the years. I remember passing the year Princess Di passed away. He had me trade out two different tubes—like amplification tubes. I went in and changed the color and the frequency of portions of me. I saw myself step on my 121st birthday. I saw all of my children, and they were in their 90s.
Kristen: I use those dates—2079 and 2124—in my daily applications. In my spirit, that is my way of changing my molecular makeup.
Viv: Wow, that makes so much sense. So from being able to see yourself at older ages, you kind of absorb the frequency from those times into your daily practice to sort of change your molecules to match who you're envisioning yourself to be.
Kristen: Yeah. If I have a vision board and I start engaging our dreams, engaging what Jesus says about us, it begins to change us. When we make those things tangible in our daily life, it keeps our faith stimulated and it changes us. It changes how the universe responds to us. I'm activating the resurrection that Jesus clearly says he gave me.
Viv: Nice. Oh, there's a question I have about chapter 3. There's a mirror translation quote that clearly became a turning point for you. The idea that Jesus isn't here to impress us, he's here to persuade us about us. What does that distinction mean for someone who has been striving their whole faith life to earn God's approval?
Kristen: He says "to persuade about us." I needed persuading. I needed Jesus to realize for me to believe my own freedom. He's going to show me what he did to free me.
Viv: You've been to the lower realms, you were in the tomb, you were in hell. Were those forms of persuasion for you?
Kristen: Of course they are. He takes me and I see the gates of hell and it literally looks like some dried ranch post. I went, "there ain't anybody here guarding it. This wouldn't even hold back livestock. How can it hold back people?" You know, God is an all-consuming fire. How is hell described? Fire. God gives us free will and we have the right to hold on to our anger and bitterness. That's what places us in a place that we would call hell. God gives us that freedom. Doesn't mean we're outside of his presence and it certainly doesn't mean that that is a forever choice.
Viv: And I love the story about Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. The king could see four people in the fire. That means Jesus was in there.
Kristen: They walked around in the fire, were not consumed, and didn't even smell like smoke. So, I'm having Past Death Experiences because I simply believe him.
Viv: I just keep saying wow because it's so deep. I'm thinking about the skeptics' perspective. You write to skeptics directly: "I'm not asking you to dismantle your theology. I'm asking you to expand your expectation." Who are you picturing when you wrote that?
Kristen: Any person who cannot sit down and have a conversation about the love of God. It's not about pushing my opinion on you. But I will ask them: "And how did Jesus show that to you?" If they open up their Bible and say, "Well, it's written down here," I'd go, "No. How did he show that to you?" Because the word Rhema means it's a shared conversation. I heard him say it to me.
Viv: And what's the first step towards Rhema? Is it being able to listen?
Kristen: Yeah, I think you answered your own question.
Viv: Would you say that that's the difference between Logos faith and Rhema faith? Logos seems one-sided and Rhema is an open conversation.
Kristen: Logos is a story that somebody else has written down. We have the privilege of going into people's stories and saying, "Jesus, would you make this my own?" Scripture in itself, ink printed on a page, cannot hug you. It cannot save you until the words become spoken—become breath. Because when they have breath, then they carry light. And when they carry light, then it can attach itself to you or expand itself within you.
Kristen: I may have developed my seeing gift more than others. But then there's people who are feelers and they can walk in a room and feel the presence of God. That's still a live conversation. Until we ingest it and it has light on it, the ink doesn't lift off the page and change our life. I knew of Jesus as a child. I believed him as a child, but I didn't begin to transform until I knew him and his ability to save me. That's when I changed.
Viv: Now for my final question. If a listener feels stuck or spiritually blind today, what is the one activation they can do right now to begin seeing how good God really is?
Kristen: Years ago... we sing songs about Ephesians 1:18, opening the eyes of my heart. We cry out for it. But do we really allow him to open it? Years ago, I saw the room and it had six very tall ladders. I had a dream that night and I saw James Goll—who wrote the book The Seer—close up his ladder and carry it out. But there were five ladders left. When I saw there were five ladders—the number of grace—I knew that every single person has the ability to perceive God.
Kristen: Jesus went up on the Mount of Transfiguration and he was transfigured, but where we miss the point is that he took Peter, James, and John with him into the spiritual realm. If Jesus did it, I can do it and I can take people with me as well. So for listeners, everybody can perceive the goodness of God. Ask Jesus to show you.
Kristen: Can I give one more metaphor? When a submarine goes below the surface, they use sonar. We call it "ping." When it pings, it means it caught the sonar bounced off of something. That's the same way in the spirit. You allow your spirit to ping the room. A person who might feel stuck or blind—ask, "Jesus, why do I feel stuck? Is that true?" And always trust what he shows you. Write it down. Put sticky notes around your house. When you honor somebody in a relationship, then what they have to give into your life remains through honor.
Viv: Thank you so much, Kristen. This has been a very interesting conversation. I'm excited for your book release. Where can listeners find your book when it's out?
Kristen: My book will be available at all of your online retailers. You can find it anywhere. If you happen to be in the United States, you can purchase one directly from me at kristenwambach.com.
Viv: Lovely. Thank you so much for joining me.
Kristen: Viv, I love hanging out with you because there's freedom here.
Viv: Oh, I appreciate that. "There's freedom here." I'm going to sit with that. Thank you so so much. You have a lovely day.
Kristen: It's my pleasure. You too. Take care. Bye.
Viv: Bye.
Host: Viv
Guest: Kristen Wambach
Viv: Hi everyone, welcome back to the Perspective Viv podcast. My name is Viv and this is the show. Today's title is How Good is God with Kristen Wambach.
Viv: We've had Kristen over here before and now we're going to be talking about her new book. So, let me reintroduce you to her. From her roots as an Oregon farm girl to her evolution as a seasoned transformational leader, Kristen Wambach embodies both the mystical and practical nature of Christ. With over 30 years of experience as an ordained pastor alongside her work as an entrepreneur and CEO, she's living proof of what happens when the goodness of God redefines your yes.
Viv: Kristen is the host of the Interviewing Jesus podcast and the author of the 400-page investigative work, How Good is God. She doesn't simply teach theology; she equips others with a bold unconventional blueprint for those ready to challenge limitations, transcend religious boundaries, and live spiritually brave. A trusted mentor in bridging heaven and earth, Kristen stands as an investigative journalist of the spirit. Hi, Kristen. Thank you for joining me.
Kristen: Hi, Viv. Hi, listeners. So much fun. So excited to be back.
Viv: I'm so excited to have you back. I miss your energy. Oh my goodness. Which is so exciting. Yes. So, let's talk about the book immediately. So, when I started reading it, I definitely—I love the way it's written. I think it's written for me. It's definitely considered non-fiction, but it seemed like fiction to me. The voice of it is very whimsical, very bouncy. Your energy comes through the words. I feel cheered on as you describe things.
Viv: I loved how you started off with the downloads, the text messages from God and how you see art is a beautiful medium, especially film. You use different films and downloads from films to, you know, send messages across. I love that. Let's talk about that. First of all, tell me about God's text messages.
Kristen: Well, it happened exactly as I wrote it one night. It was super blustery out and I'm trying to figure out how am I going to squish all of this into a book. How am I going to squish this? And God woke me up five times. And one of the times my son, our oldest son who's a Marine, he texted dad at 2 in the morning. And so he was part of the whole God saying, "Hello, let's rearrange the book this way."
Kristen: But it was so important for me to set a timeline for people, for readers. We need to realize what God has done already. Look over the span of our life. How has he been talking? So that we can come to this point. Not a point of agreement necessarily, but a point of okay, this is what God has released thus far. Now, can we talk from here?
Kristen: You know, and that's what the text messages were because God wanted us to say, "Okay, logic, we need to shake you up a little bit and figure out how are we thinking about God's goodness." And that's why the movies that came through that God used in the text message... the movies is kind of like things aren't... we're not broken. It's not hopeless. God is so much better than our bandwidth about him. And so he's challenging our thinking. He wants us to think and then ask him the simple question: "Well, how good are you, God, in this situation?"
Viv: That's a good question and I guess that's what we're about to find out from your perspective as we talk more about it. So, I love your description and for me so many things to take from it at first read. I liked the football terminology that you used. Oh my goodness. I have a question on it. Let me find it. So you often use football metaphors. The red zone, the end zone, suiting up. How does a sports mindset help a person move from being a spectator in the pews to actually experiencing the supernatural?
Kristen: So I had all these encounters. I knew that I needed to share. That was my passion. I had to share my encounters in the lower realms of the earth. Like nobody talks about this stuff, you know? Nobody talks about encountering Jesus in the tomb and asking the question, "Hey, what happened for those three days?" Hello, what happened those three days when you were in the tomb before when Holy Spirit came and resurrected you? I mean, what happened?
Kristen: And so much significantly happened there. And so, I had to ask that. So you take these mystical encounters and if people aren't used to the mystical or the supernatural, when you put them in a structure like football it helps them to unpack them. And that's the reason why I used football. It all started with—I absolutely love coaching quotes. They motivate me. They speak my language. You know, Vince Lombardi, he speaks my language. I understand it and it motivates me. And that's where the whole book started. And then it just developed. And we put mystical things in a structure so people could learn and feel strong and confident in a structure.
Viv: I love that you said that. You put mystical things in a structure for it to be easily assimilated because from the way you described it, my mind is already being held because of the manner with which you're delivering your message. I think the football terminology is very, very good because it cuts across a lot. You know, Americans love football so much—I mean we have the Super Bowl and everything. It's just brilliant, the medium through which you deliver this message because I was hooked already.
Viv: You open the book by saying, "We don't just have it wrong about God's goodness. We were taught a version that missed it entirely." You called this book a manifesto, an epistle. What made you decide the church needed a manifesto right now in 2026?
Kristen: I can't take credit for it like that. It means God kicked my butt and said you have to share. I mean literally the death doctrines themselves. Do we have any idea how many people believe that if a person commits suicide they are doomed to hell? That is so wrong. That is just so wrong. And that's the reason why I had to write my experiences because Jesus showed me specifically his goodness and I encountered it and that had to be changed. I mean, oh, can you imagine being a parent and losing a child that way? And then you feel like there's nothing you can do. That is so... it's wrong. We were taught wrong.
Viv: I feel like even with all of that, I love how you made it clear that people that commit suicide are not necessarily condemned, which calls people to start to request what it is that they've been taught or what it is that they've been indoctrinated with. And that's very important because I get that with your book, with your messages, you're trying to let people see God from a different way that is outside a particular rigid structure. And you're introducing a new structure that feels softer, less condemning, less judging, and a place where they can find belonging without feeling prejudiced against or judged.
Kristen: Yeah. And one of the things about God is sometimes we forget that he's God. We forget that he's a good father. And like a good father, he planned everything so his kids couldn't outrun him. There isn't anything that we can do that will shock God. There isn't anything that we can do that would get him to separate us from his love. Absolutely nothing. And how prideful is it of us to think that we can make a choice to separate ourselves from God? Hello.
Viv: Wow. I love that because I do think he spoke about union in the Bible where he spoke about, you know, you have to become one with God. I'm paraphrasing by taking part of his flesh and drinking his blood, but really what you were explaining was union—that we're being called to be like brothers and sisters as opposed to separate from God as a force. Tell me more about that please.
Kristen: So in communion when we take communion... in a perspective, when Adam fell, when he misjudged God, he did it through eating. Eve ate an apple. She shared an apple with Adam. So through eating mankind fell. So the coolness of God is, well, how does he redeem mankind? It's through communion—through eating. So when we take his flesh and his blood, all of his promises of who he is, when we eat that, that helps our body to remember that it is restorable. God created our body to remember to restore itself and there isn't any portion of our body that cannot remember to restore itself.
Viv: I like that you spoke about how, you know, through eating, drinking, you're becoming in communion and union with Jesus. But through eating the forbidden apple was what brought about separation or the illusion of separation. And obviously our journey is kind of like to return into union with God. Oh, I love that.
Kristen: If you think about our first estate being in him and who Adam was... and he walked with God in the cooler of the day, and Adam walked back and forth between both realms. Enoch walked back and forth between both realms. Jesus today in his resurrected self walks back and forth between both realms. That is what our original estate is supposed to do—to be able to walk with this body, an immortal body, between heaven and earth. Well, yeah, we have a bit to go. We have a bit to change our thinking and the restoration of our body for that to occur. But it's still what Christ did for us. He redeemed us to that.
Viv: Wow. So Christ was a bridge through which we could walk back into union with ourselves. Yes. Because from what I'm getting, the Bible was written for us to know that we are like Jesus. Right. Behold, if Jesus did the work to act as a bridge, it shouldn't be hard for us to go back into union quickly.
Kristen: Well, we think we're outrunning him, which is really silly. Yeah, that's funny. Exactly. But I love that you use that term. We can't outrun God. He wouldn't be God if we could.
Viv: Yes. So maybe attempting to outrun God because I guess a lot of people do end up using distractions to block them from union back with God.
Kristen: Yeah. But God is... he's just better than our bandwidth. And yes, I don't remember what your last question was.
Viv: What made you decide the church needed the manifesto right now?
Kristen: Yes. It's because if God shows you an answer and you encounter an answer, you have to be responsible to share the answer. We just can't keep these things to ourselves. And like in—which chapter is it? I don't remember all the chapters. Oh, there's so many chapters. I encountered people I knew that I knew that I knew that people went to "hell," so to speak. And I knew that that was not God's desire. That wasn't God's plan. And through that I encountered a fabulous testimony where a very dear person to me got healed of stage four breast cancer. Wow. Just because I believed God. And we just can't keep the mystical hidden because it might feel uncomfortable.
Viv: Yes. I love that we can't keep the mystical hidden because it might feel uncomfortable and the mystical seems like a key to true freedom or true realization, actualization of self.
Kristen: Well, everything begins in the unseen. When we get an idea like a book, like this pen, like the car you're driving—all those things were a thought process, an idea that began in somebody's head and you couldn't see the idea. It didn't have a physical form until somebody started go, "Oh, well, what happens if we did it this way?" And they start to put it together. Well, now what began in the unseen is something that is tangible like your pen or your car or your house. Yeah. Einstein talks an awful lot about that.
Viv: So, in the book you talk about the hellgate and the pew gate. Why do you call How Good is God a dangerous book for the modern church?
Kristen: Let me read this. This was my editing team. This is how they described the book. "Most Christian non-fiction play it safe. They either stay in the shallow end of five steps to a better life, yada yada, or they go to the deep end of dry theology. Your book refuses to do either. It is walking right into the field of blood, suicide, hell, the afterlife, unfinished family business, and plants a flag of hope there. It's bold. It's visually cinematic and frankly it is needed." That is where the word dangerous came from.
Viv: Wow. I love that they said that you are putting a flag of hope in the midst of all of that because it reminded me of that text message in which you said, "find Jesus in the midst of offense."
Kristen: So what I have experienced... the redemptive gifts talked about in Romans 12. Those are gifts that are both heaven and earth. They are embedded within us. So I have encountered those gifts through inner healing ministry, but they were in heaven as well. Oh my gosh. So, it was really fun for me to explain them as if they were an instrument or part of a symphony. Because each one of us can relate to a redemptive gift and see ourselves as portions of a symphony because God is orchestrating that perfect harmony when we come into union with one another.
Viv: Interesting. Wow, that's a lot. And I did remember my thoughts. You said that your book on theology is like a white flag in the midst of chaos. And I think that's very profound.
Kristen: That flag stick—which is a golfing term—the flag stick is what marks the hole. For too long we have allowed "death" to say, "This is it. This is your end place. You have to die before you can experience heaven." It's wrong. It's wrong because heaven and hell is a state of consciousness, right?
Kristen: Consciousness is attached to the soul. The soul is to the realm of the earth. But there is more past the consciousness because the consciousness is within the quantum realm. The vibration, the frequency, the sound. But there is—when you step through Jesus Christ himself, the rent veil, his flesh—when you step through that, you go into him, you go beyond the quantum realm.
Kristen: Heaven and hell are—in my experience—they are a place. I've encountered so many places in the lower realm of the earth that have a topography... they have a mass to them. When Jesus took me into the field of blood—the one where Judas expired himself—that shows me that there is a landmass that explains a spiritual place. So that's why with consciousness I am careful, because I think there's so much more to learn.
Viv: Thank you so much for explaining that. So you've coined a term called PTE, Past Death Experience. How is that different from a near-death experience and why is it essential for healing our personal history?
Kristen: Near-death experiences—people are fascinated by them. They have out-of-body experiences, the tunnel of light, the life review. So, I did a play on the words: a Past Death Experience. The reason why I say that is Jesus died for us. He died as us. What part of death are we not freed from? We're past it. Romans 8:2 says, "The law of the spirit of life has set me free from sin and death." Therefore, that is a higher law that eradicates out sin, death, and all their cohorts like sickness and decay.
Kristen: I use the metaphor of a carousel. These gorgeous horses are going round and round, but they're stuck in the cycle. Well, if the law of spirit of life sets you free, all of a sudden the horse can leave the cycle of the carousel. But then there's all these agreements—the ticket master saying, "I've already sold tickets for you." We allow our understanding, our ego, to keep us attached to the cycle of sin and death, and we don't allow the higher law to actually redeem us fully to eradicate sickness from ever having permission to live in our body.
Viv: So, are you saying that because Jesus died for everyone's sins, we've overcome having death and sickness as a limitation? And it's only a level of belief that lets you transcend it?
Kristen: Let's use the word transcend because I don't want to put the pressure on you and me. It's who He is. He cannot not be who He is. He's a good daddy that thought everything out before he sent the kids outside to play. And Jesus's gift is so full that we cannot not receive it. Now we can make a choice of ignoring it or not allowing it to fulfill our life. We do have that free will choice, but it doesn't lessen the fact that the law of the spirit is superior and eradicates death and decay. Peter was told, "on this rock we will build the church and the gates of hell will not prevail." Well, if the gates of hell are not going to prevail, then that means we need to come in and eradicate that the gates even exist.
Viv: So true. You know, what I love about this theory is that it's deeply resonant. It's heavy stuff and that's why your book is 400 pages.
Kristen: It's the encounters that I share. They're so deeply personal. My first love... one day after Jesus had already started me on my "tomb days"—meaning I was learning about the lower realms of the earth—my best friend from high school Facebooked me and she said, "I thought that you should know that Randy committed suicide." I immediately knew in my heart what God was asking me to do: to go get him. I knew that I knew that I knew that he was in hell.
Kristen: When I went to this place—and it was a different typography—when I went to go get Randy, he didn't recognize me at first, but when he did, the first thing that he said out of his mouth is, "I knew that you would come for me." Really? Yes. You can't think this stuff up. It's just so beautiful. So when we are not "near-death," we are past death because of what Jesus did for us. Now, we just need to learn how to live it so that our immortal bodies can begin to manifest.
Viv: What does that look like in practical terms?
Kristen: That's a great question. That's right where I'm asking it. The way that I deal with my own body, like if I have a pain, instead of releasing healing, I speak to it now and I tell the decay to move. Decay go, because I know death and decay do not have a portion in my life. This is just a portion of us retraining our understanding to actually have it manifest.
Kristen: When Jesus took me into the tomb and I was asking him, "well what went on there?" he took me and I literally saw his body sit up and stand up and I saw him fold his head napkin. First thing he did—and it was so odd—he bent over and he grabbed the soil, the dust inside the tomb. And he hits his shoulder with it, like somebody throwing salt over their shoulder for luck. I didn't ask why. I just bent over, grabbed some of the soil, and copied him.
Kristen: After that, he taught me that because he was raised from the dead, he eradicated... because Adam was made from the soil. When he did that, he was telling the dust of the earth, "you no longer have authority over me." I can't explain to you how that all is going to work yet. Well, that's okay. I'm willing to learn. I have seen my 165th birthday.
Viv: What? What did that look like?
Kristen: That's 2079. No—before I saw that, I saw my 121st birthday. On my 50th birthday, the Lord took me and I'm walking on the timeline and you can see the years. I remember passing the year Princess Di passed away. He had me trade out two different tubes—like amplification tubes. I went in and changed the color and the frequency of portions of me. I saw myself step on my 121st birthday. I saw all of my children, and they were in their 90s.
Kristen: I use those dates—2079 and 2124—in my daily applications. In my spirit, that is my way of changing my molecular makeup.
Viv: Wow, that makes so much sense. So from being able to see yourself at older ages, you kind of absorb the frequency from those times into your daily practice to sort of change your molecules to match who you're envisioning yourself to be.
Kristen: Yeah. If I have a vision board and I start engaging our dreams, engaging what Jesus says about us, it begins to change us. When we make those things tangible in our daily life, it keeps our faith stimulated and it changes us. It changes how the universe responds to us. I'm activating the resurrection that Jesus clearly says he gave me.
Viv: Nice. Oh, there's a question I have about chapter 3. There's a mirror translation quote that clearly became a turning point for you. The idea that Jesus isn't here to impress us, he's here to persuade us about us. What does that distinction mean for someone who has been striving their whole faith life to earn God's approval?
Kristen: He says "to persuade about us." I needed persuading. I needed Jesus to realize for me to believe my own freedom. He's going to show me what he did to free me.
Viv: You've been to the lower realms, you were in the tomb, you were in hell. Were those forms of persuasion for you?
Kristen: Of course they are. He takes me and I see the gates of hell and it literally looks like some dried ranch post. I went, "there ain't anybody here guarding it. This wouldn't even hold back livestock. How can it hold back people?" You know, God is an all-consuming fire. How is hell described? Fire. God gives us free will and we have the right to hold on to our anger and bitterness. That's what places us in a place that we would call hell. God gives us that freedom. Doesn't mean we're outside of his presence and it certainly doesn't mean that that is a forever choice.
Viv: And I love the story about Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. The king could see four people in the fire. That means Jesus was in there.
Kristen: They walked around in the fire, were not consumed, and didn't even smell like smoke. So, I'm having Past Death Experiences because I simply believe him.
Viv: I just keep saying wow because it's so deep. I'm thinking about the skeptics' perspective. You write to skeptics directly: "I'm not asking you to dismantle your theology. I'm asking you to expand your expectation." Who are you picturing when you wrote that?
Kristen: Any person who cannot sit down and have a conversation about the love of God. It's not about pushing my opinion on you. But I will ask them: "And how did Jesus show that to you?" If they open up their Bible and say, "Well, it's written down here," I'd go, "No. How did he show that to you?" Because the word Rhema means it's a shared conversation. I heard him say it to me.
Viv: And what's the first step towards Rhema? Is it being able to listen?
Kristen: Yeah, I think you answered your own question.
Viv: Would you say that that's the difference between Logos faith and Rhema faith? Logos seems one-sided and Rhema is an open conversation.
Kristen: Logos is a story that somebody else has written down. We have the privilege of going into people's stories and saying, "Jesus, would you make this my own?" Scripture in itself, ink printed on a page, cannot hug you. It cannot save you until the words become spoken—become breath. Because when they have breath, then they carry light. And when they carry light, then it can attach itself to you or expand itself within you.
Kristen: I may have developed my seeing gift more than others. But then there's people who are feelers and they can walk in a room and feel the presence of God. That's still a live conversation. Until we ingest it and it has light on it, the ink doesn't lift off the page and change our life. I knew of Jesus as a child. I believed him as a child, but I didn't begin to transform until I knew him and his ability to save me. That's when I changed.
Viv: Now for my final question. If a listener feels stuck or spiritually blind today, what is the one activation they can do right now to begin seeing how good God really is?
Kristen: Years ago... we sing songs about Ephesians 1:18, opening the eyes of my heart. We cry out for it. But do we really allow him to open it? Years ago, I saw the room and it had six very tall ladders. I had a dream that night and I saw James Goll—who wrote the book The Seer—close up his ladder and carry it out. But there were five ladders left. When I saw there were five ladders—the number of grace—I knew that every single person has the ability to perceive God.
Kristen: Jesus went up on the Mount of Transfiguration and he was transfigured, but where we miss the point is that he took Peter, James, and John with him into the spiritual realm. If Jesus did it, I can do it and I can take people with me as well. So for listeners, everybody can perceive the goodness of God. Ask Jesus to show you.
Kristen: Can I give one more metaphor? When a submarine goes below the surface, they use sonar. We call it "ping." When it pings, it means it caught the sonar bounced off of something. That's the same way in the spirit. You allow your spirit to ping the room. A person who might feel stuck or blind—ask, "Jesus, why do I feel stuck? Is that true?" And always trust what he shows you. Write it down. Put sticky notes around your house. When you honor somebody in a relationship, then what they have to give into your life remains through honor.
Viv: Thank you so much, Kristen. This has been a very interesting conversation. I'm excited for your book release. Where can listeners find your book when it's out?
Kristen: My book will be available at all of your online retailers. You can find it anywhere. If you happen to be in the United States, you can purchase one directly from me at kristenwambach.com.
Viv: Lovely. Thank you so much for joining me.
Kristen: Viv, I love hanging out with you because there's freedom here.
Viv: Oh, I appreciate that. "There's freedom here." I'm going to sit with that. Thank you so so much. You have a lovely day.
Kristen: It's my pleasure. You too. Take care. Bye.
Viv: Bye.
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Final Summary: How Good is God! A Conversation with Kristen Wambach
In this landmark interview on the Perspective with Viv podcast, Kristen Wambach delivers a manifesto for the modern seeker: a call to move beyond the shallow waters of safe theology and into the deep, restorative reality of God’s goodness. Drawing from 30 years of leadership and her work as a spiritual investigative journalist, Kristen unpacks the "Beyond" posture required to witness the supernatural in the everyday.
The conversation centers on the radical concept of the PTE (Past Death Experience)—the investigative realization that because of the finished work of Christ, death and decay no longer hold legal authority over the believer’s life. Kristen shares cinematic, first-hand accounts of the lower realms and the tomb, providing a tangible structure for understanding the mystical bridge between heaven and earth.
Listeners are invited to shift from logos (the written story) to rhema (the shared conversation), learning to "ping" the spirit realm through perception rather than religious performance. This summary serves as a reminder that the path to spiritual bravery is not found in complex formulas, but in the simple, persuasive truth that we are already in union with a Father who planned for our restoration before we ever stepped outside to play.
The conversation centers on the radical concept of the PTE (Past Death Experience)—the investigative realization that because of the finished work of Christ, death and decay no longer hold legal authority over the believer’s life. Kristen shares cinematic, first-hand accounts of the lower realms and the tomb, providing a tangible structure for understanding the mystical bridge between heaven and earth.
Listeners are invited to shift from logos (the written story) to rhema (the shared conversation), learning to "ping" the spirit realm through perception rather than religious performance. This summary serves as a reminder that the path to spiritual bravery is not found in complex formulas, but in the simple, persuasive truth that we are already in union with a Father who planned for our restoration before we ever stepped outside to play.
Coaching Church Activations
ACTIVATION FOR THE READER:
In the interview, Kristen shares the "Ladder Vision"—a reminder that the ability to perceive God is not a specialized gift for the "titled" few, but a grace-filled invitation for every person.
Monday-Morning Activation: If you feel "stuck" or "spiritually blind," do not look for a complex religious formula. Instead, engage in a simple, honest conversation. Ask: "Jesus, what do you think about this situation? Is my feeling of being 'stuck' true from your perspective?"
Listen for the shared conversation. Write down what you perceive—whether it’s a thought, a feeling, or a cinematic "download." When you honor the voice of God in your daily life, you anchor the transformation in your physical reality.
In the interview, Kristen shares the "Ladder Vision"—a reminder that the ability to perceive God is not a specialized gift for the "titled" few, but a grace-filled invitation for every person.
Monday-Morning Activation: If you feel "stuck" or "spiritually blind," do not look for a complex religious formula. Instead, engage in a simple, honest conversation. Ask: "Jesus, what do you think about this situation? Is my feeling of being 'stuck' true from your perspective?"
Listen for the shared conversation. Write down what you perceive—whether it’s a thought, a feeling, or a cinematic "download." When you honor the voice of God in your daily life, you anchor the transformation in your physical reality.
The Supernatural Reality & Living "Spiritually Brave""Kristen Wambach Authority: Engaging Heaven-to-Earth, Activation of Spiritual Senses, and Demystifying Supernatural Experiences. 30 years of ministry legacy providing a biblically sound foundation for spiritual exploration."
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Acclaimed Author and Transformational Leader Kristen Wambach Announces Landmark Investigative Work: How Good is GodCORVALLIS, OR – Kristen Wambach, a seasoned transformational leader, ordained pastor, and host of the Interviewing Jesus Podcast, announces the release of her highly anticipated 400-page manifesto, How Good is God. Moving beyond the "shallow end" of safe theology, Wambach serves as a spiritual investigative journalist, offering a bold, cinematic blueprint for those ready to transcend religious boundaries and experience the supernatural as a practical, daily reality. Synthesizing over 30 years of ministry leadership and 20 years of coaching, Wambach’s latest work addresses the "death doctrines" and rigid structures that have historically limited the human spirit. Through raw stories and simple activations, she introduces the concept of the PTE (Past Death Experience)—the investigative conclusion that the finished work of Christ provides a legal exit from the cycles of decay and sickness. "Jesus is not here to impress us; he is here to persuade us about us," says Wambach. "For too long, we have allowed religious tradition to narrow our bandwidth. This book is a safe path for the reader’s heart to reclaim its original estate of union with God." |
Key themes explored in How Good is God include:
How Good is God is available through all major online retailers and directly at kristenwambach.com.
About Kristen Wambach: Kristen Wambach is an author, speaker, and spiritual coach dedicated to helping others connect with their God-inspired "DNA" calling. With a career spanning three decades of leadership, she simplifies supernatural experiences into essential lifestyle tools for personal development and spiritual bravery.
About Kristen Wambach:
Kristen Wambach is an acclaimed author, ordained pastor, and spiritual coach based in the Pacific Northwest. As the creator of the "Diamond Pass" framework and host of the Interviewing Jesus Podcast, she empowers entrepreneurs and seekers to connect with their God-inspired DNA calling. Through her work, she simplifies supernatural experiences into essential lifestyle tools for personal development and global restoration.
Media Contact:
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KristenWambach.com
- The Rhema Shift: Moving from a written story (logos) to a shared, live conversation (rhema) with the Spirit.
- The Sonar of the Spirit: Practical tools for "pinging" the unseen realm to perceive and manifest the goodness of God.
- Molecular Restoration: Understanding the physical implications of communion as a mechanism for the body to "remember" its restorable state.
- The Tomb Revelation: An investigative look at the three days between the cross and the resurrection, and what they mean for human authority today.
How Good is God is available through all major online retailers and directly at kristenwambach.com.
About Kristen Wambach: Kristen Wambach is an author, speaker, and spiritual coach dedicated to helping others connect with their God-inspired "DNA" calling. With a career spanning three decades of leadership, she simplifies supernatural experiences into essential lifestyle tools for personal development and spiritual bravery.
About Kristen Wambach:
Kristen Wambach is an acclaimed author, ordained pastor, and spiritual coach based in the Pacific Northwest. As the creator of the "Diamond Pass" framework and host of the Interviewing Jesus Podcast, she empowers entrepreneurs and seekers to connect with their God-inspired DNA calling. Through her work, she simplifies supernatural experiences into essential lifestyle tools for personal development and global restoration.
Media Contact:
[email protected]
KristenWambach.com




