The Phishing Scam That Sent Me to the Courts of Heaven: Spiritual Security Upgrades ❖ 263

Unzip the ceiling, step through the veil, and stand on the floor of heaven." —Kristen Wambach

What do you do when the "noise of the earth" attempts to steal your peace? This week, a sophisticated phishing scam nearly got the best of me. As I sat in the aftermath of changing passwords and shoring up my digital life, the Holy Spirit began to speak a deeper truth about The Seal of Authenticity.

EPISODE TAKEAWAYS

• The Digital Wake-Up Call: Why a phishing scam is actually a "Holy Ghost Highlight" alerting you to a breach in your spiritual security.
• The Seal of Authenticity: Why you are a bespoke masterpiece and not a mass-produced reprint.​

• Courtroom Tactics: How to practically place your identity before "Big Papa" in the Courts of Heaven to receive a protective mandate.
• Unzipping Heaven: A lifestyle tool to escape the noise of the earth and gain God's perspective.
• The Triumph Beyond Dispute: A breakdown of Romans 8:37-39—why no device "yet to be invented" can separate you from His love.
  
• Uprooting Evil: How ridding an accusation in your own life helps rid it for the whole Body of Christ.

As an ordained pastor and experienced spiritual coach with over 40 years in ministry, I’ve learned that heaven is incredibly practical. We often think of spiritual warfare as abstract, but sometimes it sounds like a voice on the other end of a phone line trying to usurp your identity. In this episode, I’m pulling back the veil on how to handle natural threats with supernatural authority.
Drawing from two decades of teaching believers how to engage the heavenly realm, I’ll show you how to unzip the "ceiling" of this world’s noise and stand on the floor of heaven. We explore the Seal of Authenticity—the reality that you are a bespoke creation, hand-signed by the Artist, and your identity is not for sale.
We go deep into the Courts of Heaven, where I share my personal process of placing my "spiritual Social Security number" before a Righteous Father. If you’ve felt accused, threatened, or distracted by the onslaught of the world, this is your invitation to a Spiritual Security Upgrade. Move from "What would Jesus do?" to the authority of "Who does Jesus say that I AM?"

SUMMARY

Episode Summary: The Seal of Authenticity. 
​In this episode of the Interviewing Jesus Podcast, host Kristen Wambach turns a disturbing personal encounter with a phishing scam into a masterclass on spiritual security. After being targeted by sophisticated identity thieves during a moment of distraction and exhaustion, Kristen shares how the Holy Spirit pivoted her focus from natural alarm to supernatural authority.
The heart of the message explores The Seal of Authenticity—the truth that every believer is a "bespoke creation" hand-signed by God. Kristen explains that mass production has no soul, but the "fingerprint of God" on our lives is the only ID we truly need. She demonstrates how to "unzip the ceiling" of earthly noise and step into the Courts of Heaven, practically placing our identity before a Righteous Father to block, protect, and usurp the false authority of the enemy.
Listeners are challenged to move beyond the question "What would Jesus do?" and instead embrace "Who does Jesus say that I AM?" Through a powerful breakdown of Romans 8:37-39, Kristen reminds us that no device—past, present, or yet to be invented—can separate us from the love of God. The episode concludes with a call to action: when you rid the accusation for yourself in the courts, you help rid it for the entire Body of Christ.

Heaven is absolutely practical, practical, practical." —Kristen Wambach

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00:00 Identity Theft and Spiritual Security: Phishing Scams, Spiritual Security Upgrades, Distraction
12:37 The Importance of Divine Identity: Seal of Authenticity, Bespoke Creation, Artist's Signature
20:31 Authority in Christ and Overcoming Accusations: Courts of Heaven, Legal Mandates, Romans 8:37
20:44 Embracing Your Divine Identity: Standing on Heaven's Floor, Big Papa, Spiritual Bravery
21:36 Practical Tools for Spiritual Growth: Unzipping Heaven, Dream Discernment, Holy Ghost Highlights
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When you rid the accusation for yourself, you help rid it for all of us." —Kristen Wambach

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We live in an age of digital noise. Between the pings of our social media and the constant flow of information, there is a darker frequency: the frequency of the accusation. This week, it didn’t come to me through a theological debate; it came through a phone call.

A phishing scammer, armed with an alarming amount of my personal data, attempted to shake my peace. In the natural, it was a nuisance that required changing passwords and contacting banks. But in the spirit, it was a "Holy Ghost highlight." It was a reminder that our identity is constantly being targeted by an enemy who wants to usurp what Christ has already secured.

The Noise of the Earth vs. The Floor of Heaven
When we are tired, emotionally spent, or hyper-focused on our "projects"—even the good ones like launching a book or a website—we become susceptible to distractions. The noise of the earth becomes loud. It sounds like fear, like "your identity is at risk," or "you are not secure."

But heaven is incredibly practical. As an ordained pastor with over 40 years of ministry, I’ve found that the most effective way to handle an earthly threat is to take it to the Highest Court. I saw it in my spirit: unzipping the ceiling of this noisy world and stepping through the veil to stand on the floor of heaven. From that vantage point, the threat doesn't look like a crisis; it looks like an opportunity for a "Spiritual Security Upgrade."

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The Phishing Scam That Sent Me to the Courts of Heaven: Spiritual Security Upgrades ❖ 263
Kristen Wambach (00:02.134)
Welcome, welcome to Interviewing Jesus podcast. I am your host, Kristin Wambach. Have you ever had that split second where your heart just drops right into your feet? Not because a particularly spiritual attack you can see, but because of a voice on the other end of the phone line. This week, I had a disturbing occurrence. A sophisticated phishing scam nearly got the best of me, targeting my identity, my peace, and my focus. But as I sat in the aftermath of changing passwords and shoring up my digital life, the Holy Spirit began to speak to me of a much deeper truth about the seal of authenticity. As an ordained pastor and spiritual coach, with over four years of ministry experience, I've learned that heaven is incredibly practical. When the noise of the earth tries to drown out who you are, it's time to unzip the ceiling, step through the veil and stand on the floor of heaven to see things from God's perspective.
Today we're talking about Spiritual Security upgrades. We're going into the courts of heaven to place our identity, our spiritual social security number before a righteous father. Whether you have felt accused, threatened, or just distracted by an onslaught of the world, this episode is your reminder that you are a bespoke Preacher, are his, made in his image, signed by the artist himself. It's time to move from what would Jesus do to who does Jesus say that you and I are. Let's breach the gap together between heaven and earth and nail those threats where they belong. Amen.
Kristen Wambach (00:01.56)
Hello, hello, let's get started here today. Has that ever happened to you? This week, seriously a disturbing occurrence. Someone tried to steal my identity through one of those phishing call scams. And quite frankly, they almost got the best of me. And that is what is so scary. But we're not trying to be fearful here, but to take action for who you and I really are. Sometimes we just need that shake to remind us of the benefits that God has provided for us. Amen. I do not think I am an online prude by any means. That's why it really caught me off guard. I have five online stores. I manage two websites. I help people through coaching. I published this podcast and now I am working on launching my second book. Yep. I'm a little bit focused right now.
I can look at it from two different ways. This is what I wanted to share with you. It's time for an upgrade of our own security. And yes, I'm talking spiritual security, which has very practical applications. We need to remember our identity in Him, always, for everything. And that is the heart of what you and I are going to talk about today as I pressed through kind of a very upsetting couple of days during my week. Heaven is absolutely practical, practical, practical, practical. And this is how our story develops. I'm in my final editing stages of the book, working on the website, the VIP launch emails and workflows, which you are most welcome to join. And I'm making sure that I'm communicating the experience in my life, that I've had years of ministry experience, yada, yada, yada, all those things that we do for...
Kristen Wambach (02:26.572)
...those of you who have a voice online, we're always communicating the passions on our heart, the issues that God has reinforced who we are and how we can help others. Amen. I help people live spiritually brave. I encounter God. We step through the veil in Christ to experience heaven. That is what I am so passionate about. I also watch my granddaughter a couple days during the week. And when I do that, I get up very early. Um, yes, very early. And so when nap time rolls around, it is literally nap time for both of us. You get the picture here. And then the phone rings. And it wasn't just twice. And yes, I have my phone set for the do not disturb and the only the contacts can get through and yes. And then it rings right away three times in a row. So I go, "Oh!" And I answer it thinking that it is on behalf of my 92 year old mother who has one of those emergency response contact calls. The thing she wears around her neck.
And that's what I was thinking that it was repeating the call. It was an emergency situation. So I answered this. Note to self about being distracted. Hello, we can all hear this here. When you and I are extra focused on projects, and especially products, projects that have a line of when we want to accomplish them, if they're set with a goal. We are so focused, right? When we're tired, when we're emotionally spent, we are easily distracted. Did I set that up well for you? This is where I actually was. I've been so focused on my work and keeping up all of the hats, so to speak, for my week. I'm sure you can relate with me, that sometimes that in itself can be a distraction. So I answered the phone after the three immediate phone calls back to back and the lady was very nice of course, and she was calling to warn me that my social security number had been used to open an account in Florida and wanted to know if that was me. Well, immediately I'm apprehensive, but she had all the pertinent information and she just kept reading it off and offering it to me. This is who you are. I'm from such and such bank institution and she just read off all this information that you'd assume only a bank official would have. Well, then came the transfer to a higher security individual because they were there to help me make sure that nothing had gone wrong and that my identity was not indeed getting stolen. yeah, they were really good at what they were doing. So I'm sure that you're getting the picture here. First, I was alarmed when I finally...
Kristen Wambach (07:09.022)
...in my spirit, thank God for Holy Spirit, in my spirit, I never had that freedom, that assurity by the phone call, even though they they put me on the edge, you feel at risk like, my gosh, now what am I going to have to do? Now what am I going to have to to go through? And so there was the bridge that was trying to disrupt my peace to provide help. That was the scary part. And how much exact information they actually had about me to convince me of their legitimacy. I tell you, no, I didn't give out any information, nothing new, no matter how irrelevant it might seem. And they really didn't ask too much. Yes. After the end of the call, I contacted my bank institutions and changed my passwords, contacted the credit bureaus and such and such, which took me almost an entire day to shore up my identity. Yeah. It's like, God, this is wrong.
In our society today, this is not news at all. But this is what reminded me. This is what reminded me. And because of what he was reminding me of who I am and who you are, I wanted to just take something that's practical and happens to each one of us and say, hello, we need to remember who our God is. Amen. I wrote this, this is an excerpt. I can say that this is an excerpt from my brand new book, How Good Is God. The seal of authenticity. Mass production has no soul. Factory lines create copies, but they do not create art. Value is determined by one thing. Who signs the work? The ridges on your fingertips are not random lines. They are the evidence that the artist touched the clay while it was still wet. You are not a reprint. You are a bespoke creation. And the fingerprint of God is the only ID you need. Amen. God's fingerprint is on you. God's fingerprint is on me. And that is the only ID that we need and no enemy. No, they cannot have our identity and they could not usurp it. Amen. Here's my conclusion. This is what I did. And I want you to take notes here.
Kristen Wambach (09:33.943)
Okay. I immediately stepped into the courts of heaven and I put my social security on the bench before a righteous father. I can't tell you how much I love this personality of my heavenly father. He is a righteous dude and he is always standing in that place to protect his kids. I love a big papa. He in turn identified me. I was going through the spiritual legalities of protecting myself from an onslaught of the enemy. So I take in my social security number and in the spirit I put it on the bench where papa is sitting. Then we recorded it because obviously he identifies his own kids. And then I sent out the angels to block, protect, and usurp the false authority that was attempting to steal and destroy. Amen. Then I asked the father for a mandate, a special assignment to uproot the evil that was being done against people, people. And I consider myself to have above average online chutzpah. And I was thinking of all the other people that this same type of scam has literally stolen money from them. It's horrendous. So this assignment to uproot evil being done against people through this company and the people who were choosing to partner with that company sent out the angels and BAM! Peace is restored. Yay God!
Kristen Wambach (11:50.369)
Our reminder, our very practical reminder, always ask God, always ask God, step through the veil of himself, get the different picture, get the picture that God is seeing and his perception. I actually made this really cool video this morning with an AI. and I literally put in the words of what I saw my spirit doing literally going through the noise of the earth as if it were a ceiling opening the ceiling unzipping the ceiling and going stepping into heaven and standing on the floor of heaven to get God's perspective you can see it on the YouTube version of this episode. I will also put it in the blog post connected to the show notes. You will love it. It is amazing. Imagine stepping out of the noise of the earth and standing on the floor of heaven and feeling the presence of God and every benefit that he has supplied us as your enforcement for that day.
Always ask God if your identity is being compromised. So many ways to look at that. Now I'm going to give you a couple of different ways that, that God has highlighted this to me throughout the course of my years of engaging heaven. Sometimes it can come through a dream. The dreams will be someone is attempting to steal our purse or maybe we've misplaced our purse in the dream and the purse would be telling us, meaning our wealth, our valuables, our identity in a dream. Hello? Sometimes even in social media, Holy Spirit will just have these posts come up...
Kristen Wambach (14:12.236)
...before us that's just a direct message of pay attention. Look what's going on here. Hello, wake up and this actually happened to me this week as well I had a friend who I'd sent him a link directly from my website and he was blocked he literally many times could not get to my website because he was blocked. Hello. Thank you God for giving me a clue of what is going on. Yay, amen.
Kristen Wambach (14:53.183)
and please. When you have been accused in whatever manner that it comes, take the appropriate actions with the Lord to rid the accusation. Because when you do that, when we rid the accusation, it also helps to remove it from all of us. Amen. What is an accusation? Anything that attempts to usurp the authority of Christ and his sacrifice for you and I. Anything. Anything that is attempting to steal our peace. Anything that threatens what Christ gave to you and I. Who he says we are. Even the keys of the kingdom that he gave us. If it is threatening our access and our authority. Something is usurping. Amen.
What else is an accusation? When life and that life of being abundant is being compromised. I love Romans 8, 37 through 39 in the mirror. It is one of my favorite, favorite scriptures. On the contrary, in the thick of these things, our triumph remains...
Kristen Wambach (16:34.6)
On the contrary, in the thick of these things, our triumph remains beyond dispute. His love has placed us above the reach of any onslaught. And this is my conviction. No threat, whether it be death or life, be it celestial messengers, demon powers, political principalities, nothing known to us at this time. or even in the unknown future, no dimension of any calculation in time or space, nor any device yet to be invented, as what it takes to separate us from the love of God unveiled in our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen. Nothing, nothing can separate us from the love of God. And since you and I cannot be separated from the love of God. It's up to you and I to use that authority that he placed in our hands and time to nail those threats in the courts of heaven. Amen.

The Seal of Authenticity
In my upcoming book, How Good Is God!, I talk about the "Seal of Authenticity." Think about a factory line. Mass production has no soul. It creates copies, reprints, and generic versions. But value is determined by the signature.

Your fingerprints aren’t just biological markers for a background check. They are the evidence that the Artist touched the clay while it was still wet. You are a bespoke creation. This means your ID isn't found in a Social Security number or a bank account; it is found in the DNA of God’s love for you.

Legal Action in the Courts of Heaven

So, what do we do when the enemy attempts to steal our "purse"—our wealth, our valuables, or our peace? We step into the Courts of Heaven.

I literally took my Social Security number—the very thing the scammers were trying to weaponize—and I placed it on the bench before my Righteous Father. I call Him "Big Papa" because He is a protector. When we present our case, He identifies us. He stamps us as His own.

From that place of legal standing, I didn't just ask for protection; I asked for a mandate. I sent out angels not only to block the attack against me but to uproot the evil being done to others through that organization. This is the power of being a "Spiritually Brave" believer. When you rid the accusation for yourself, you help rid it for the whole Body of Christ.

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 The AI video of "Unzipping Heaven" is mentioned in today's show!

The Triumph Beyond Dispute
Romans 8:37-39 tells us that nothing—not celestial messengers, demon powers, or even "devices yet to be invented"—can separate us from the love of God.
If nothing can separate us from His love, then nothing can truly steal our identity.
The next time you feel a "split second where your heart drops," remember that you have the authority to nail those threats to the cross. Step out of the noise. Stand on the floor of heaven. And listen to what the Father says about who you are.

On the contrary, in the thick of these things our triumph remains beyond dispute. His love has placed us above the reach of any onslaught. This is my conviction; no threat whether it be in death or life; be it celestial messengers, demon powers or political principalities, nothing known to us at this time, or even in the unknown future; no dimension of any calculation in time or space, nor any device yet to be invented, has what it takes to separate us from the love of God unveiled in our Lord, Jesus Christ.
Romans 8: 37-39 du Toit, Francois. Mirror Study Bible 

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Thank you for walking this exciting journey with me. I love to share and knowing you are here makes it ever so special. Bless you. As you know I have been on a quest to answer 70 of the most asked question by famous Podcasters and Interviewers. 
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and this weeks question:  How do you define success in your field?
Success, in the eyes of our Father, isn't found in the "grind" or the height of a platform, but in the radical alignment of our hearts with His. It’s the quiet, supernatural wisdom of faithfulness—the kind that chooses Rhema over Logos and prioritizes Sonship over "doing." To God, you are successful when you are simply, bravely yourself, living out the divine DNA He’s woven into your spirit. He doesn’t just watch our success; He delights in it with the heart of a proud Father, cheering as we bridge the gap between Heaven and Earth. When we succeed for Him, it’s not a performance to earn His love, but a beautiful oneness in action, proving just How Good He is as we steward the restoration of all things in our own unique spheres.

Are you ready to move from being a target to being Spiritually BRAVE? Don’t let the noise of the earth or the tactics of the enemy steal your peace or your purpose. Your identity is a bespoke creation, hand-signed by God, and it is time to enforce that truth in every area of your life.
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• Watch the Breakthrough: Head over to my YouTube channel to continue watching the visual representation of "Unzipping Heaven." Let it spark an activation in your own spirit to see past the noise.
• Join the Inner Circle: I am in the final stages of launching my new book, How Good is God! If you want exclusive access to the tools I use to navigate the courts of heaven and live in divine authenticity, [Join the VIP Launch Team here].
• Share Your Victory: Has God given you a "Holy Ghost Highlight" this week? Leave a comment below. When we share our triumphs over the accuser, we shore up the security for the entire community.

It’s time to unzip the ceiling and stand on the floor of heaven. I’ll see you there.