The concept of surrender is a bigger concept that not only includes trust but includes acceptance of God’s will, whatever that may be." —Sylvia Worsham
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Listeners will receive exclusive insights on the identity shift from achieving for love to living from it. Sylvia provides the practical logic of "Pausing for Presence" to help you pull heavenly perspective into your daily life. You will learn the specific keys to discerning a "God-breathed DNA" calling from a simple "good idea," alongside the "War Room" strategy for using scripture as a defense against the noise of doubt. SUMMARYJoin host Kristen Wambach and 3x bestselling author Sylvia Worsham as they discuss the journey from corporate perfectionism to spiritual surrender. Sylvia shares her miraculous story of surviving a near-fatal medical crisis and how it redefined her identity as a "warrior of light." From Success to SurrenderIn the high-stakes world of corporate pharmaceuticals, Sylvia Worsham was at the top of her game. As the number one saleswoman for Pfizer, her life was defined by metrics, achievement, and the relentless pursuit of perfection. But on a providential Good Friday, the "high achiever" met a juncture that no amount of professional expertise could navigate. Sylvia walked into St. Luke’s Episcopal Hospital with what she thought was a minor ailment, only to find herself a "ticking time bomb" with pulmonary embolisms and acute liver failure. It was here, at the edge of life and death, that the "sales executive" died and the "warrior of light" was born. LISTEN TO THE AUDIO VERSION
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INTERVIEWING JESUS PODCAST: SYLVIA WORSHAM TRANSCRIPT Kristen Wambach (00:03.448) Hello and welcome to Interviewing Jesus podcast. Sylvia Horsham. I'm going to, cause I didn't ask your name, so I can cancel that. How do I say your name? Sylvia Worsham, Author (00:15.103) Worship no worship worship Kristen Wambach (00:16.856) Horsham Worship I'm glad I did that so okay, we can start this again For or like two warships I'm putting it phonically here. Yeah, that's it. Okay. Here we go Sylvia Worsham, Author (00:26.337) You Kristen Wambach (00:38.498) Hello and welcome to Interviewing Jesus podcast. I'm Kristen Wambach, your host and I have a special treat for you today. Our guest Sylvia Worsham is a three times bestselling authoress, a spiritual transformation coach who transitioned from a high stakes corporate sales career into her divine calling as a warrior of light. After surviving a life altering medical complication, she retired from the corporate world to help professional women navigate deep spiritual change. She's based in Austin, Texas. Sylvia is the host of Released Out, Reveal Purpose podcast and the author of In Faith, I Thrive and Journey to Me. We're going to have some great questions today. She specializes in turning personal junctures into roadmaps of growth, helping others align their identity with their soul's purpose. Welcome Sylvia. Sylvia Worsham, Author (01:46.982) Thank you, Kristen. Such a pleasure to be here with you. Kristen Wambach (01:51.346) I am so excited to listen here and have some really great questions for you. Can we just jump right in about those transitions and change that you are an expert and you've mastered this because Holy Spirit has just led the way in your heart. Many people see crisis as a breaking, but you see it as an opening. When you were at your lowest, what was the specific aha moment or Rhema word, the insight that Jesus gave you that rewrote your total identity from a sales executive to a warrior of light. Sylvia Worsham, Author (02:36.321) It's a very good question. The situation was six doctors in a hospital room. I had walked in unassisted to St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital. I was in my late 30s. I was starting to date who would become my second husband. And I was on a trip with my little boy. He was about seven years old at the time. And we had been headed to spend it in Louisiana. I'm from South Texas originally and I had taken a flight the night before. Unbeknownst to me, I already had pulmonary embolisms, which in itself was miraculous. I did not die in the middle of the flight. I landed, but I could not breathe. I was very pale. I had a lot of pain in my chest. Before I even boarded the flight, my mother, whose intuition had kicked in, had begged me to call one of my siblings who are both physicians to get it checked out. And so I called my brother and he had told me that based on my age and my physical activity, which was very high in those years, was exercising seven days a week. I was in top shape of my life. He based all of that and said, it sounds like pleurisy is plaguing you. Pleurisy is the inflammation of the lining of the lung. The problem with that diagnosis is that it mimics to a T pulmonary embolisms. And so if you don't know that you have it and you take a flight, you likely will die in the middle of the flight. I did not. So it was miraculous. I landed the next morning in the middle of the night. We spent the night in Houston. The original plan was to go from Houston to Louisiana overnight, but my boyfriend probably felt a prompting from the Holy Spirit that said, let's stay here in Houston. And so we spent the night. I was alone in my room with my boy and he was in a separate room. And at three in the morning, I got jolted out of bed. And the very first prompting that came very quickly was lean forward and you'll be able to breathe. And so I leaned forward. I'm very obedient to Christ and my relationship with him at that point, I'd been through several major setbacks. One of them had been divorce. And it was when I had started to turn inward and really started a real relationship with Christ himself after having had turned away from him for about 10 years during my first marriage. So he had already started to reach out to me and I felt a soul, like a pull for my soul to just get to know him again. And luckily for me, I was very obedient that night because... Kristen Wambach (04:47.95) Mm-hmm. Sylvia Worsham, Author (04:57.097) The doctors later explained to me that in that moment I was jolted awake. The fact that I leaned forward saved my life because two blood clots were passing through my heart to get to my left lung. And they did not stop my heart and they were rather large. So it was baffling to doctors when they saw me in the hospital and they obviously admitted me and they told me this is Good Friday now. They said the likelihood is you'll stay here till Tuesday. Now realize I'm in a different city. Have a little boy. My boyfriend had only met him once before and my boy was out there. So quick arrangements. My mother flew up. My sister-in-law flew up, picked up my son, turned around and went back to South Texas. And my mom stayed with me. And when they originally took a scan of my lungs, aside from having the two large ones in my left lung, it was... I had them everywhere. So I was like a ticking time bomb. But the problem was they also noticed that my liver was inflamed and they couldn't inject the dye again. They had to wait till the next day to inject it, or I would have gone into like kidney failure as well. And so the next day when they took a scan of the abdomen, that's when I received six doctors in my hospital. And they began by explaining to me that there was a real problem, that they were facing a time issue with me. And initially I was like, well, I'm already like in serious condition with these pulmonary embolisms, what else could be wrong? And they said, well, you have what's known as Budd-Chiari syndrome. And this is common with birth control pills. You've been taking them and it's a clot that starts clotting up your vena cava. The vena cava for those listening is the main vein that takes blood out of your main organs. And it's basically all the way clotted, except for like a little sliver of blood is able to get out of your liver, but it's putting a lot of pressure on it. And do you see the three dots on your right? And I said, yes. And well, they're the transplant team and they're now on your case, because you're about to go into acute liver failure and require a transplant if we don't get to this thing in time. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to give you this TPA tissue plasminogen activator. And it's this big drug that they pass it through your IV and it's like a clot buster. Like it just destroys it. The problem with that medicine is that it can also cause internal bleeding and cause death. And so they start going through the side effects. And when they get to death and hemorrhagic stroke, my mind goes blank. In retrospect now, after many years of this incident, I know that was God's providence because in describing this situation to me, the doctors were baffled that I had even walked into the hospital unassisted because I should have been doubled over in pain and not able to walk, let alone unassisted. So it was really interesting to them how all this was transpiring. I should have been in major pain and I didn't feel any pain. So I now know that was God's providence. Kristen Wambach (08:52.354) Mm-hmm. Sylvia Worsham, Author (08:54.055) What really taught me, what that incident taught me was to fully surrender to Christ. Before this, in my journey with Him, I hadn't understood the concept of surrender. I had understood believing but not believing and trusting Him with my life. And the concept of surrender is a bigger concept that not only includes trust but includes acceptance of God's will, whatever that may be. And in the moment that they're telling me of everything they're going to be doing to me, I close my eyes and I visualize falling into God's arms in total surrender. And what that—the value of surrender to me was what it later taught me—was you now know how to do this in big situations. Now I need you to learn to do it in smaller situations, which is the chapter I'm in right now, which is a hard thing for someone like me because I was raised by a high achiever perfectionist and I was once that person. I was a high achiever perfectionist. Kristen Wambach (10:00.654) [Unintelligible] Sylvia Worsham, Author (10:11.529) I'd landed in Pfizer. In the time that all this is occurring, I'm the number one saleswoman for Pfizer pharmaceuticals in the country. And so I'm used to having control over my circumstances. And now I'm facing a situation where not even the experts in the field, in the top medical center in Texas and around the world are not confident I'm going to survive the night. So it was a profound turning point, a pivotal moment that just totally shifted that perfectionist high achiever in me and started that path of learning to trust and obey Him and accept His will completely. So I hope that that answered your question. Kristen Wambach (11:02.55) It was wonderful. Wonderful. My goodness. I always love the intuitive questions because it helps each one of us learn how He's speaking and how He's moving in our life in that moment where it seemed like peace just overflowed, was walking with you. Peace and mercy were literally walking with you. And you said you saw yourself fall into God's arms. What else did you feel and notice in His presence that you're familiar with today? Sylvia Worsham, Author (11:45.557) Well, what happened the next day was even more profound because I was in His presence. So the day of Easter Sunday morning came and went. I was really scared to go to sleep the night before because I didn't know what this thing was going to do to my body. When I woke up, the very first thing I started to do was move my arms and legs because stroke had been one of the main side effects that this thing had, it had neurological side effects. And so I was really scared. The interesting thing was it was resurrection day for the Christians listening and for the Catholics it was Easter Sunday morning. And I, when I walked into the hospital, you know how it is, they ask you what religion you are. And I was in between religions because I had been raised Catholic, but I had kind of was transitioning out of it. But in that moment you just answer what comes naturally to you. I said Catholic and a woman with the Catholic diocese ended up coming to my room that morning and said, do you want to pray with me? And I said, you know what, I need a miracle. I want my second chance at life because I had begged God the night before to give me a second chance. And I told Him, I made a deal with Him. If you give me a second chance, I will devote my life to You. I will do as You asked me to do. I won't question You anymore. And I'll be Your obedient child. And so I didn't know what He had done. My boyfriend was in the room. We formed a circle and we started saying the Lord's Prayer. And halfway through the prayer, a love so immense enveloped the entire room. It was undeniable. There was no question in my heart that I was in God's presence. And what I felt was that Christ Himself was cradling me like a child. He was carrying me because I was so weak and I was so scared. Kristen Wambach (13:40.259) Mm-hmm. Sylvia Worsham, Author (13:51.209) And it was in that moment that I felt carried by Him. I felt a peace wash over me and knowing that I was okay, that He had given me the second chance. I didn't need confirmation. The doctors however need confirmation because they're men of science and they need that backing and that proof. So as soon as she left the room, my boyfriend turned to me, who is now my husband by the way, and said, you felt them too, didn't you? He had appeared to him. He too had been told immediately that I had been saved, that his prayer had been answered because he had been praying and begging God to not let me die. Because the risk of my death was 80% with what I had, the condition I had. I was really, I was a miracle, a walking miracle. And so they wheel me in and the nurse said, "I had never seen your face be so radiant." My face was full of lights. There was like no question I had been in the presence of the Lord. And I was so terrified of needles, Kristen, that she begged the radiology department to let her from ICU enter radiology with me to keep me calm because the needle they were going to insert in me was rather large to get a camera in to see if this thing had done its job. She said, "You didn't even flinch, Sylvia. You didn't even flinch when they injected you. You were so peaceful." And the vision that God had in my mind was of me being in the water with Him, my boyfriend and my mom. And it just kind of kept me very calm. It was this beautiful sunset and mountain and I was in the ocean with them. It was so, so peaceful. Kristen Wambach (15:18.126) Mm-hmm. Kristen Wambach (15:37.166) Mm-hmm. Sylvia Worsham, Author (15:44.477) And within 10 minutes, the radiologist comes out and his face is illuminated, like totally radiant. And he goes, "I just can't believe it. There is no evidence of illness anywhere in your body. And there should be. There should be holes in your lungs where those pulmonary emboli were because they were very large and you should have long-term complications and you have nothing." When you go through things like that and I'm getting emotional. Kristen Wambach (16:22.456) Good. Sylvia Worsham, Author (16:28.435) It's going to shift you. When He gives you what you desired, what you wanted, and it's in alignment to His will, it changes you forever. It's a moment that I try to adequately put into words in In Faith I Thrive, in the second edition of Journey. I don't think I did it justice. To be in His presence is, it's a gift that I will forever cherish. That knowing it was like a little glimpse into what it was like to be in His presence in Heaven is what it felt like. Kristen Wambach (17:17.986) I love it. Sylvia, would you do us a kindness and in this what I call pregnant moment, because we all feel the presence of the Lord in and through your story and your testimony. Would you pray for our listeners, those that right now are right in that movement of the juncture, right? It might not be a diagnosis, or you might not be in a medical situation, but they may be at that juncture right when they're in the pivot. Would you pray for them and lay hands on us in the spirit, please? Sylvia Worsham, Author (18:09.065) Lord Jesus, I ask You to please guide anyone listening into Your light, into Your presence, Lord. Let them feel Your protection, Your love. Let them feel safe in You, Lord. Let them rely on You completely. Let them trust You with Your will. Let them even rejoice in the moment of their suffering because all this Lord is is to glorify You. It's to be more like You. We ask this powerfully in Your name. Amen. Kristen Wambach (19:00.038) Amen. Amen. Thank you. Listeners, if you're just feeling the presence of that, just touching you, just put your hands on your heart and just stay in that place. Just stay in that place and receive and drink it in, taking in a communion of the testimony because we overcome in the testimony of Jesus Christ. And Holy Spirit has offered us a testimony today. And we just agree and say, do it again, Jesus. Yay. Thank you so much, Sylvia. You help women, us determined and in your face women. I'm laughing at myself. You help women align their soul's identity in the quiet moments of your own coaching practice and the wisdom through the fire, so to speak. How do you discern the difference between a person's good idea for their life versus that God-breathed DNA that you take with you because you have moved through that transition and juncture. Sylvia Worsham, Author (20:33.057) Well, as I'm coaching women, first of all, I invite the Holy Spirit in the meeting. Because when you invite Him, His presence, He makes His presence known through either myself or even through the one receiving the coaching. As they ask the questions, as they reflect, and then the Holy Spirit allows them to see and hear what they need to hear. So how I discern what I think is their good versus their godly identity or whether it's an ego identity showing up or a soul identity showing up is first off I asked them, "Is this a persistent thing that has come out of nowhere?" Like this thought that you're getting is—I ask a question. It's like, "Is this something that has been gnawing at you for a while?" Is this like an, what we, we always used to say, God lives in the gut, like that gut instinct that we have. When we tune into that, that's likely the Holy Spirit guiding us. When it's ego, it's full of doubt. Kristen Wambach (21:39.468) Mm-hmm. Sylvia Worsham, Author (21:50.879) Doubt, God does not live in doubt. God lives in love, in presence. Doubt usually is in the past with regret and guilt mixed in with it. And that's the enemy wanting to keep you stuck in the circumstance. So in order to move from that doubt, there's got to be some reflection, some discernment and sometimes in the coaching process, if they can't come up with—like if the answer doesn't come to them—I don't rush it. There's a reason for the not rushing piece. First of all, it's not on my timing, it's on God's timing. And sometimes He's allowing certain things to occur because He knows the recipient's heart very well, my coaching client's heart. And sometimes He has been guiding them, but their own mind has been blocking them. And so the first thing we start doing is we start identifying what belief, working backwards basically. If—like, share with me what thoughts are going through your mind. Kristen Wambach (23:10.552) Mm-hmm. Sylvia Worsham, Author (23:11.743) Let's reframe that thought and then let's use scripture that backs up that reframe. Right. So for example, I'll give an example. A couple of weeks back. My client was going through a really hard time. She was thinking back to times with her mother, her father, that were not very joyful. And then immediately the reframe was Philippians 4:8 came into mind of brothers and sisters think of things that are good and noble. And then immediately, you know, the vision started that God was giving my client visions of all the good things that the parents did instead of all the negative things. The negative things are usually from the enemy trying to keep them stuck in this cycle of overwhelm, which is very consistent for females in particular. We tend to ruminate more than the men. The men are very... Kristen Wambach (24:23.15) Mm-hmm. Kristen Wambach (24:29.902) No, we don't do that. [Laughs] Sylvia Worsham, Author (24:36.319) We love doing that. We love—I mean, even in my Bible study the other day, we're studying the book of Esther. And we were coming up with all sorts of reasons why Queen Vashti was not like in the presence of the king. It's like the men would have looked at it and said, "It's clearly stated in scripture. Let's just keep moving on." The women tend to ruminate a lot. So I'm one of those women. I ruminate, I was ruminating, my father passed away almost two years ago, Father's Day, and the same thing was happening to me. And Philippians 4:8 kicked in. And then God gave me visions of all the times my father did show up for me. Kristen Wambach (25:19.374) Mm-hmm. Sylvia Worsham, Author (25:21.089) And that's when you know it's of God and when you know it's Satan that is plaguing you more so, keeping you in the darkness. So I hope I answered your question. I kind of went around about way. Kristen Wambach (25:35.467) I love roundabout ways. I absolutely love them. So one of your superpowers, Sylvia, is seeing the silver lining. On Interviewing Jesus podcast, we talk about bridging the gap between Heaven and earth, literally experiencing Heaven now, which your testimony, it said, that you shared with us is right on the mark with experiencing the fullness and the goodness of God from Heaven. How do you practically pull down heavenly perspectives when a challenge feels like it has no silver lining? Sylvia Worsham, Author (26:22.291) I invite Him in. I know the tendency is when you're in the darkness, Satan will start coming in to tell you to be mad at Him, to blame Him. I know I've fallen into that trap. And so I'm being very vulnerable here. I will force myself to open up scripture, even when I don't feel like it. A couple of days will go by and then the consistency of that practice brings me out of that darkness and into His light again. The other thing I've done is also go outside and marvel at the beauty of His creation. And recently I've been going outside with my dog in the mornings and I was doing a lot of to do things. Like I'm such a high achiever that God in November of this past year had to sit me down and say—I was going through a really dark period. And He said, "Baby girl, why are you achieving for My love? You already have My love. You don't need to achieve. Your dad has been gone almost two years and you're still doing the same pattern with all the men in your life, including Me. You're doing it with your husband and you have his love. And let Me show you the vision of here's his love, here's My love. So right now I need you to focus on pausing for presence." Pause for presence. That's my tagline for 2026. And in that pause for presence, while going outside, it's hard to escape His creation when birds are everywhere and the sky is so brilliantly blue and the smells are magical. It's really hard to ignore Him. He's everywhere in all the beauty I see in the Word I'm reading because now, before I would read the Word, and it would just be like in passing until I had major conflict with my husband in November. And then there was a vertical conversation, a very heavy conversation I had with Christ then again, who redirected my path for 2026. And my new aim now is surrendering control in the small things, small things like this. So when I'm going through anything negative, as I read scripture now, because I'm pausing for presence, is I will use my superpowers of how God shows up for me, which He tends to highlight certain words as I read text. And so I'll highlight it, I'll circle it, and then I'll draw out this like arrow and I will say what that scripture means to me right now. What is He telling me through that scripture? The more I've practiced this the last couple of months, the more centered I have felt. The other thing I did was, I don't know if you guys have ever seen the movie, The War Room. It's an Alex Kendrick's film and it focuses on a marriage that's falling apart. And there's an older lady, Ms. Clara, that starts guiding the young wife through this. And she talks about creating a war room, a prayer room, a prayer closet, if you will. And I saw the movie again. And this time I caught different things about the movie. And one of the things that the Holy Spirit highlighted for me was a strategy she shares with the wife. Because she is in a really dark space and I was in a really, really dark space in November. He said, she said, "You have got to getting good with the Lord." And the way to combat Satan is to put up scripture all over your house. And so I started to research the scripture and there's scripture all over my home and He started to guide me on a new project that I'm working on for my next book. And in it is who I am, my identity in Christ. Right? And the more I read and the more I allow the Holy Spirit to allow me to see in my honest prayer every day, and gentlemen listening is: "Lord, give me eyes to see spiritually what You need me to see, ears to hear what You need me to understand, and a heart to believe who and what I am in You." Because the issue was, Kristen, I believed that Jesus was the Messiah and I trusted in Him. I just didn't believe who I was in Him. And for 2026, that's what He's working on with me. And I'm just—I wake up every morning at 4 a.m. and I pray from 4 to about 6 a.m. when I go upstairs and wake up my daughter for school. And it is coffee chats. I drink one cup of coffee and that's the only coffee I drink all day. And He's my first appointment of the day. And that's every day. There is like no day that I skip or anything. And that's what I've done to get out of that space. Kristen Wambach (32:44.642) That's beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you. Sylvia Worsham, Author (32:44.757) Thank you for sharing. Kristen Wambach (32:52.352) If you could sit across from Jesus today, I don't even like using the word if because I believe we are sitting across from Jesus today. And we could—you could ask Him one question regarding the professional women you serve. What would that question be? Sylvia Worsham, Author (33:17.247) That's a hard one. Am I serving them in the way You need me to serve them? rather, would the question be more like, am I on the path that You intended for me to serve the people that I'm serving? And see what He—it's a general question, but it's like to really understand are the books, the podcast, is that Your will or is that my desire that I just misinterpreted as Your will? That's what He says. Kristen Wambach (34:06.296) You know what I saw in the spirit when you were letting the question mull around in your head? I saw you get up from the teacher's position and go sit in the student chair. Sylvia Worsham, Author (34:07.265) Thank you. Kristen Wambach (34:21.304) That was a beautiful thing. That you walk and you literally stand in other people's footsteps so that you can serve and respond to them and support them. Sylvia Worsham, Author (34:34.803) And you know what? I'm feeling His presence in me. And what came to me was—have you, you are currently living the third level of my mastermind. So I have three levels masterminds. One is Freedom from Fear. Second one is Joy in the Journey and they all build through In Faith I Thrive. And we use the book because that—He's the author of that book. I'm just His vehicle. Third level is the toughest level to be in in His trust in God's sovereignty. Because He's asking me to relinquish control of the small things, which can be very difficult for women in particular, who are used to being in control of their homes, of their children's schedules, of everybody's schedules. I mean, it's what society kind of beats us with, you know? And so it's ingrained in our subconscious to be that way. And it's tough for us to relinquish that control to release it completely and surrender it to Him, even in the small things. So thank you for that visual because it just confirmed what He told me this morning. Kristen Wambach (35:49.487) You're very welcome. I'm going to ask you just one more perspective of what you were sharing with us there. How do you separate where you feel control, like I'm hanging on to it too tight versus you realizing your call that He called you to be a leader. So there's a fine line. There's a gray area that we need to develop and mature so that we can release what we need to release and lead and accept who we are as leaders on our path. Sylvia Worsham, Author (36:33.491) That was a hard one, Kristen. I tell you, I struggled with that one a lot recently because I'm wondering where He wants me. Does He want me getting my master's and PhD, for example, which has been some thought that has been in the back of my mind. So I'm trying to discern whether that's Him or that's me, which would put me in a leadership position because the master's is in theology, psychology, what I'm considering, which is the concept of the book and the podcast. And the PhD would follow that path. Or do I step fully into the masterminds because I had spent the last four years writing books and doing the podcast, which takes, as you and I both know, that takes a lot of time and a lot of energy to do that. I'm still advancing His kingdom. But is it in the manner that He needs me to lead His kingdom, like to move it even further than what I've already done? So that's something that I'm actively asking Him to show me. I don't want to make that decision. I'm thinking the control is coming into play because of my doubt. And like I described before, doubt is not of God. That is the ego, the mind playing tricks on you, right? Like that's your programming coming into play and to kind of like what I think of Galatians 5:17, the flesh and the spirit are always in conflict with each other and you're to be spirit-led and not driven by the flesh, by the desires of the flesh. So I'm wondering if which one it is for me so that I can then step into that leadership role, which right now I, to a degree I'm stepping into as a podcast host because I'm leading discussions that are difficult discussions because the people that are on my podcast are not all believers. There are people that are struggling with their belief. They're searching for Him, but they call Him something totally different. They call Him "universe" or they call Him "energy" or whatever it is that in their journey they need to call Him. I create a space that they feel comfortable enough to share this, but then I also share my perspective and I bring in His perspective. So to a degree I'm taking the leadership role, but I know if it's to the degree that He needs me to do right now. So that one's an iffy one. It's hard to relinquish that control because what I found was my biggest struggle is that at times I've fallen into the trap of following a certain path only to realize that Satan has been masquerading as an angel of light. And then God has shown me a vision of like—you don't need this person. Like to give you perspective, I had a gentleman that was referring a lot of people to my podcast. He came out of nowhere. I thought initially it was God sending me this individual. So I started interviewing the people that that he had brought me to the podcast. And this was like a couple of weeks back, my daughter was very ill with the flu and I—my husband was out of town. I was overwhelmed with a bunch of stuff happening as you know, we juggle so much in our home that I failed to read the biography of someone that I said I would interview. And when they got on the podcast, I didn't realize that they were going to be talking about a subject that went completely contradictory to my values as a Christian woman. She was going to be discussing polyamorous relationships and how she was pro that, and I'm very much against that. And so I felt a disalignment immediately in my soul, but I had already agreed to interview this individual. And I remember praying inside my mind as she's talking to God, like talking to Him, like, "What do I do in this situation?" And I felt the Lord say, "Share with her the story of Christ with the woman who had been caught in adultery that was about to be stoned to death." Interestingly enough, and that's what I had read that morning. And so I'm like describing this and saying how Christ wasn't judging her but He asked her to not continue in her sin, that He was a kind and gentle father, right, and brother, and that He was leaving the judgment up to God the Father. And then when I asked a personal question, I felt led to ask a personal question of her husband. Was her husband in agreement with these polyamorous relationship? And she stopped the interview right away. Well, the whole gist of why I'm saying all this is that initially this gentleman was sending me people that were big time influencers on Instagram. These were people with over like 31.2 K, you know, people in there, you know, this big significance, right? And initially I was someone that is a smaller podcast and you kind of want that exposure so that your message gets out. But then I thought to myself, at what cost am I doing that? And this is going in complete contradiction to who I'm becoming in Him. And the disalignment was there. So the release of control was letting that go because when that interview happened, I reached out to the gentleman that was sending and I said, "Hey, this happened just FYI," didn't hear back from him. I reached out one second time and that's when God came in and said, "You and I need to talk. You need to let this one go. This is not an alignment. This was Satan masquerading as angel of light. You need to be careful with who you associate yourself with because you're not really advancing My kingdom now. Now there's more noise. So be very careful with this message moving forward." And so now I'm like re-examining things in my life and asking the Lord to reveal, to help me see what He needs me to see so that my path then can lead to His light and to His glory. Kristen Wambach (43:39.267) Thank you very much for sharing that and how you processed the question, how you processed questioning the path that you were on. That was excellent. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. Sylvia, how can our listeners connect with you? Sylvia Worsham, Author (43:54.067) You're welcome. It's really easy. I've made it very easy for people. On my website. Everything's on there. My books, way to contact me, my podcast, everything's linked. So it's www.sylviaworsham.com. That's how you reach me. Kristen Wambach (44:28.908) Wonderful, wonderful. And your coaching. You have a coaching tab there as well. Yes. Sylvia Worsham, Author (44:34.623) Yes, yes. My Calendly is on there so you can book a call, and greet. You can get on my podcast if you'd like to be on Release Doubt, Reveal Purpose. And the meet and greet is for us to understand what your needs are and if we're a good fit, we're a good fit. And if not, I actually have coaches that I refer to based on the needs of the clients. Kristen Wambach (44:55.886) And the masterminds that you were sharing with us, are those there as well? Sylvia Worsham, Author (45:02.677) Yes, a description of them are there. And then when you reach out to me via like a phone call to discuss, then I would send the form of payment, which is not available on my website. That would be like discussing with me first, because we first have to identify what level you're in. Not everybody's in Freedom from Fear, for example, some people have already journeyed through fear are now in the space of joy, and they don't know how to be in joy. And so that's why Joy in the Journey is there to kind of guide women to their authentic selves, to guide themselves, like to learn how to get to know themselves again. Because when they go through major change, women tend to lose themselves in their identity quite a bit because they're nurturing others and they're taking care of others and they often forget to take care of themselves. So it's about reconnecting with self. And then from that space, it's reconnecting with Christ Himself. And then the third and final level is trust and in God's sovereignty. And those are higher level concepts of like full surrender, surrender in the small things in life. Because now He's put me through the ringer first. So now I understand what you're going through so I can guide you best. And we have a book that He authored that is guiding us through those journeys. And so it's level one, two or three, and it just depends on where you're [at]. Kristen Wambach (46:29.87) And I am very impressed by how gifted you are in framing all that up. I see that. I see that. That's wonderful. Would you share us one little goodie, one more little goodie, because you've already, you've prayed for us, you've shared with us some wonderful frameworks, but one little goodie from that place that you were sitting in, what we would say the student's chair that I talked about earlier, that place where you're asking God His perspectives. So you got up, you sat in a different chair, a chair of a learner, of a student so that you would hear that perspective. Would you either pray or declare or give us a little how-to? Sylvia Worsham, Author (47:25.154) Well, let's pray about it because I think prayer is very powerful. Lord, we ask You so humbly to come and search our hearts, search our minds and reveal to us what we need to see, what we need to let go of to move from this place of darkness we find ourselves in, this place of change. Because Lord, we know that change is an opportunity for us to seek Your light in the dark space. Seek Your guidance, Your voice. Please help us tap into that whisper. Guide us into what we need to do, what we need to continue doing, start doing, and what we need to stop doing altogether so that we can tap into You, tap into Your genius, Your capacity, Your knowledge of the circumstances we find ourselves in. And we ask this so humbly in Your name, amen. Kristen Wambach (48:47.618) Thank you much. Thank you, Sylvia. What a treat and a pleasure to hang out with you today. Thank you very much. Listeners, I want to remind you that all of Sylvia's connections, the transcript will all be in the show notes. Thank you again, Sylvia. We've been greatly rewarded today. Thank you. Sylvia Worsham, Author (49:12.15) Thank you, Kristen. SCAN TO LISTEN ON MOBILE DEVICE The Anatomy of a Turning PointMany people view crisis as a breaking point—a finality of sorts. However, Sylvia sees it as an opening. During our conversation on the Interviewing Jesus Podcast, she described the moment six doctors stood in her room delivering a grim prognosis. In that space, the Holy Spirit began a work of "spiritual investigative journalism" within her heart. Surrender, as Sylvia defines it, isn't just believing that God exists; it is the radical acceptance of His will, regardless of the outcome. It is moving from the "ego identity"—which is rooted in doubt, past regrets, and the need for control—into the "soul identity," which is anchored in the finished work of Christ. I invite the Holy Spirit into the meeting... He makes His presence known through either myself or even through the one receiving the coaching." —Sylvia Worsham Connect with Sylvia WorshamFROM PERFECTION TO PURPOSE The Golden Shackles: Growing up in a hardworking Mexican household in South Texas, I adopted a silent mantra: "To be worthy, I must achieve perfectly." This programming led me straight into the "golden shackles" of corporate pharmaceutical sales. From the outside, my life looked picture-perfect—a top-tier career at Pfizer, a prominent neighborhood, and a family. But inside, I was disconnected from my own soul and a God I only knew through religion, not relationship. The Breaking Point. In 2007, the veneer cracked. While standing as the #1 saleswoman in my region, my ten-year marriage ended in divorce. I felt the first pull of the Holy Spirit using change as a catalyst for a deeper faith. I began to realize that the guilt I felt for my success was rooted in an old belief: that a woman couldn't have it all without a painful sacrifice. The Three Miracles. The true "turning point" arrived in April 2009. Within 72 hours, I received three distinct miracles while facing a life-threatening medical crisis. Facing death became my greatest blessing; it was the "opening" that revealed why God had granted me a second chance. A Roadmap for Growth. Six months after nearly dying, I took a leap of faith, moved to Austin, and began the journey of radical surrender. What started as a prompting to join the John Maxwell team evolved into becoming a 3x bestselling author and spiritual transformation coach. Today, I help professional women navigate their own "sacred junctures." I’ve moved from a perfectionist who felt insignificant without an achievement to a warrior of light who knows her value. My mission is to lead you out of fear and ego and toward the joy and fulfillment that wait on the other side of surrender. Bridging the Gap: Heaven on Good FridayThe most striking part of Sylvia’s testimony is her experience of the "presence" on Easter Sunday morning. As she prayed for a second chance, a love so immense enveloped the room that it became a physical reality. She described being "cradled like a child" by Christ himself. This isn't just a mystical story; it’s a roadmap for every professional woman who feels trapped by the "perfectionist" label. Sylvia’s journey proves that we don't have to achieve for God’s love—we already have it. When we stop performing, we start positioned for the miraculous. A love so immense enveloped the entire room. There was no question in my heart that I was in God’s presence." —Sylvia Worsham Monday-Morning Logic: Pausing for PresenceThe transition from a corporate mindset to a spirit-led life requires what Sylvia calls "Monday-morning" logic—practical, outcome-focused steps. Her primary activation is "Pausing for Presence." In 2026, this means more than just a morning devotion. it is a deliberate "vertical conversation" with Jesus before the noise of the world begins. It involves:
MORE VIDEOS YOU WILL ❤️In this enlightening conversation, Kristen Wambach and Wendy Bower explore the themes of transformation, gratitude, and the deep connection with God through personal experiences and insights. Wendy shares her journey of overcoming cancer, the significance of colors as a love language from God, and the power of declarations in shaping one's reality. The discussion emphasizes the importance of perspective, intuitive perception, and the role of gratitude in navigating life's challenges. Listeners are encouraged to embrace their identity in Christ and to cultivate a practice of gratitude that transforms their everyday experiences. HOW GOOD IS GOD! Beyond the Gates to Truly Experience Heaven God's goodness is bigger than your current bandwidth about Him. Have you ever felt like God was a distant landlord-someone you studied from afar but rarely knew intimately? For years, Kristen Wambach stood on that same field, defending the character of a God she hoped was good, while silently carrying the heavy baggage of survival, religious exhaustion, and unanswered questions. But what if His kindness isn't a reward for your effort? What if it's an ancient, relentless force that has been holding you since long before you knew you were looking for Him? We overcome in the testimony of Jesus Christ. And Holy Spirit has offered us a testimony today." —Kristen Wambach Chapter Activations: Coaching ChurchActivation for the Reader: The "Student Chair" Pivot In our interview, we envisioned moving from the "teacher’s chair" (control) to the "student chair" (learning).
He who surrenders to God acknowledges him as the author of all that is good." — John Calvin Final SummaryThis episode with Sylvia Worsham is a masterclass in shifting from a performance-based life to a presence-based life. By applying "Monday-morning" logic to her supernatural encounter, Sylvia provides a safe path for professional women to navigate their deepest spiritual changes without losing their peace or their purpose.
With 30+ years of ministry and leadership experience, I serve as a spiritual investigative journalist, mystical futurist, and ordained pastor. I have spent over two decades mastering Oneness
and connection with God. As a transformation coach, I specialize in simplifying the supernatural and bringing heaven to earth. My focus is always on reverence, hope, and testifying to redemption to advance the kingdom. As the host of the globally reaching podcast, INTERVIEWING JESUS. , I facilitate soul-stirring conversations that provide exclusive access to divine wisdom meant to rewrite your life and awaken your God-inspired calling. In my upcoming book, HOW GOOD IS GOD. , you will not find heavy theological arguments. Instead, you will find a practical path with raw stories, prayer, and simple activations designed to help you live spiritually brave.
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