Stop Mission Who You Were: How the Fire Rewrites Your DNA ❖ 273

He will give you beauty for ashes... you have to allow those old thoughts and habits to burn away." —Jesikah Wells

In this spirit-led episode, host Kristen Wambach and Jesikah Wells unpack how life’s "fires" do not destroy your DNA—they redefine it for a new realm. Jesikah shares why we must stop missing who we were to discover who we are in the heart of a Father who is obsessed with the smallest details of our restoration.

From the "Closet Strategy" of divine appointments to ending the cycle of empty-handed prayer, this conversation provides a practical blueprint for moving from burnout to being spiritually brave. Tune in to witness a prophetic release of business doors and life-changing documents currently being blown into your season.

EPISODE TAKEAWAYS Your Blueprint for Beauty

• The DNA of Fire: Stop viewing loss as destruction; fire redefines your spiritual DNA for a brand-new realm.
• The Discovery Shift: Quit trying to recover who you were and start discovering who you are in the Father's heart.
• The Closet Strategy: God is obsessed with the jots and tittles; He uses your shoes and your blazer to open divine doors.
• End Empty-Handed Prayer: Honor God’s voice by showing up with a pen; a record is required for your restoration.
• Kingly Searching: Treat spiritual mysteries as a royal invitation to search out the heart of your Father.
• The Vindicator’s Rule: When you stop defending yourself, you allow Jehovah Shafat to judge your case righteously.
• Grace for the Grind: Healing your central nervous system starts by putting yourself on your own to-do list.
• Prophetic Documents: The wind of the Spirit is currently releasing business plans, diagnoses, and legal answers into your hands.

Why You Aren't Missing Who You Were—You're Discovering Who You Are.

Have you ever looked at a season of your life and seen nothing but scorched earth? Perhaps it was a divorce, a career burnout, or a loss that felt so total it seemed to erase your very identity. We often talk about "beauty for ashes" as a nice poetic sentiment, but Jesikah Wells, host of the Broken to Beautiful podcast, knows that the process is much more visceral. It is a rewriting of your spiritual DNA.

God is in all the details. He cares what I wear, He cares how I speak." —Jesikah Wells

SUMMARY

In this deeply tender episode, I am joined by Jesikah Wells, host of the Broken to Beautiful podcast, to explore what it truly means to reclaim beauty from the ashes. We move beyond the poetic sentiment of restoration to look at the visceral reality of life’s fires, realizing that while fire may burn away our old mannerisms and doormat mentalities, it does not destroy our DNA—it redefines it for a new realm. Jesikah shares a powerful correction from the Holy Spirit: many of us spend our energy missing who we were before the tragedy, when God is actually inviting us to finally discover who we are in Him.
Our conversation highlights a Father who is obsessed with the details, from the shoes we put on to stand in our calling to the specific blazer in our closet that He uses to open a divine door. We dive into the practical "Monday-morning" logic of restoration, discussing how to disassociate our temporary feelings from our eternal personality and why we must stop practicing "empty-handed prayer". Jesikah recounts a convicting moment when the Lord challenged her for not bringing a journal or pen to their meeting, reminding us that restoration requires a record and an expectation that Heaven will provide real strategies.
As we wrap up, we explore the identity of Jehovah Shafat, the Righteous Judge, who acts as a "Girl Dad" and protector for His daughters. We discuss the importance of leaving our vindication in His hands rather than taking matters into our own hands through social media or self-defense. The episode concludes with a profound prophetic vision of the wind of the Holy Spirit blowing across documents and legal transactions, signifying that God is currently sealing futures, changing diagnoses, and opening business opportunities for those who feel far from finished.

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Kristen Wambach (00:01): Hello, Interviewing Jesus podcast family. How are you today? My secret surprise, I have a weapon for you. I am joined by a woman who truly understands what it means to reclaim beauty for ashes. Jessica Wells is a speaker, a leader, and the host of the Broken to Beautiful podcast, where she creates a safe space for women to navigate healing and God-centered transformation.
Kristen Wambach (00:35): With a background in wealth management and branding, boy, can she make those graphics up. I've asked her a few times. Jessica owns her own life was redefined in 2020 when she moved from simply knowing God, knowing the songs, knowing the melody of faith to embodying His living Word—that's Jesus Himself—through a season of profound personal loss and burnout. Today she serves as a powerful voice for those navigating the ebbs and flow of life, teaching us how to walk boldly in our God-given identity. Welcome, Jessica.
Jesikah Wells (01:23): Thank you for having me.
Kristen Wambach (01:27): Yay, yay, and we have a little bit of a—I was on her show I think just about a year ago and it was just so tender and so wonderful, so it is wonderful to get another opportunity to sit down and let Holy Spirit just move amongst us, amen.
Jesikah Wells (01:50): Amen. Yes.
Kristen Wambach (01:52): Would you share with our listeners, Beauty for Ashes? You talk about God not being a halfway God, and He doesn't just feel part way, that He really just digs into what we would classify broken, but He doesn't see us as broken. Would you unpack that for us?
Jesikah Wells (02:18): Yes. So I think it's important for us to just remember that God is in all of the details. He cares about everything. And when we start thinking about it from that standpoint—like the Lord cares what I wear, He cares how I speak, how I conduct myself. I'm His child, right? That's the God that we serve.
Jesikah Wells (02:49): And when we think about it in that totality, how He wants to be included. And when we start including Him in every little thing—you know, Lord, what do you ask you to do today? Lord, how should I handle this? Should I wear this? Should I not? And allow Him to just lead you in every step of the way. He really does, just like it says in the book of Isaiah, what my podcast is founded off of, Isaiah 61.
Jesikah Wells (03:19): He will give you beauty for ashes. And when we think about ashes, the first thing that comes to mind is something being burnt down to ashes. So you have to allow those old thoughts, those old mannerisms, the old ways that you used to conduct yourself, those old habits to burn away, right? And He will give you—you have to trust Him to do that for you. It's all about the trust, trusting Him to be a part of those small moments, trusting Him to take what you have been through and are going through if you're going through something and to give you that beauty for actions.
Kristen Wambach (04:07): I agree with you; sometimes it's just so dialed down even to what you're wearing. I have on my favorite Converse high tops; there's leather there—I stick my foot up on the desk, you know, so the YouTubers can see it—but when I put those shoes on I just feel like I am standing in the attitude of what He's called me and who He's called me to be. Simply by a goofy pair of shoes that I got at a thrift store.
Jesikah Wells (04:44): Right, right. My goodness. When I tell you, Kristen, similar incident with myself: I was going to this event and I'm like, "Lord, I don't have anything new. What should I wear?" And Holy Spirit was like, "Wear this blazer". It was so funny. I'm like, "This is a blazer in the back of my closet. I haven't worn it in years, had it for years." When I put that blazer on, went to the event, I got so many compliments on just that—I mean, men and women. And I'm like, "Okay, I see, Lord, you're on to something. You're on to something." And I made so many connections that night just off of compliments. So listen.
Kristen Wambach (05:28): Could you—I love where we're at with the beauty for ashes. Sometimes we look at the ashes totally being burned. It's almost like you can't even find the DNA of what remained. Because the burning actually, the fire changes the DNA. So if you were to imagine a forest or a tree or firewood, it does change the DNA. But actually what it does, it just puts it in a different realm because it still remains a tree. So would you unpack for us how you have found beauty and maybe even the practical part of how you set yourself down to actually feel that way?
Jesikah Wells (06:25): Yeah, yeah. So just like you said, the burning away, right? And it burns down. I remember when the Lord first started dealing with me and His purpose for my life—not my purpose, not what Jessica wanted to do or what I thought I should be doing. With His purpose for my life, it felt as if my entire mind was being rewired, the way that I used to think. And I was literally blown away. I'm like, "Wait a minute now, this is crazy. First of all, I'm a PK. I don't know, I'm a church kid. I grew up in church, right?" So, hey—yes, a pastor's kid, right?
Kristen Wambach (07:08): Let's play hands on you right now. He's a pastor's kid. People, if you're not familiar with the lingo.
Jesikah Wells (07:22): It's like, my gosh, I always hear these scriptures, I always hear this song in church, but it was different when the Lord started revealing His purpose for my life and His word became alive—meaning I had to walk it out, right? And with the sense of beauty, like you said, even the practical, those things, it goes back to what I previously said about allowing Him in those spaces.
Jesikah Wells (07:54): I just noticed how He changed my appearance. I've always been the girly girl, right, Kristen? I like all things feminine—the hair, the makeup, the nails, all those things. And even in that, He speaks to me. Like, "Okay, maybe I don't need to dye my hair hot pink this time," you know? But allowing Him that space to say, "Why don't you try this or that?" He's going to prepare you for where you're going for His purpose.
Jesikah Wells (08:29): He's going to extract that beauty. At the time, you may not feel like it is while you're going through, while you're being prepped, while you're being pruned and positioned. You may not feel like it, but trust me, it is all in His plan. I'm thinking about something He's been dealing with me with lately—and it may be a topic of my show, I don't know, I'm still praying about it—but it is how to rebuild and recover after those seasons of loss, after those seasons of preparation and pruning, how do you get back to who you are?
Jesikah Wells (09:12): And I don't mean get back to who you used to be before you allowed the Lord to take the lead, because I found myself coming out of a hard season and I went to say to someone, "I miss who I was." And the Holy Spirit corrected me: "You don't miss who you were; you miss who you are". It's not who you were in the past, but you miss being able to do the things that I've already instilled in you to do. Looking how you would look, you know, on a good day if everything was going just perfectly for you.
Jesikah Wells (09:59): So don't say you miss who you were, because I don't miss who I was, I miss who I am. And in that, He started taking me on this path of rebuilding—getting back to rest, getting back to beauty treatments that I like, getting back into the habit of those things, calming my central nervous system. He will get you back to the beauty. Trust me, it's beauty that is being extracted. You don't have to worry if your season feels crazy, out of this world, you don't know what's happening. Trust me, the Lord will get you back here. You're not gonna be left there, okay? You just have to see it through. And He'll bring you back and you will be able to look like, "My gosh, look at who I am now. Look at how I speak. Look at how I look. Look at how I steward my children versus who I was before this". So yeah, He's extracting that beauty. That's it.
Kristen Wambach (11:04): In my own life, sometimes in those trying seasons or tough seasons—I'm just about ready to publish my second book. And so you're just kind of frazzled from doing all of the online stuff and finding all those little jots and tittles and typos. It's just exasperating at times, but it's the Lord that's calling you to share who you are and share your words. What is a little tool that you activate with yourself to actually see Jesus right there in those places where we just as soon hide—you know, He's not in the room, He's not in the house today—how does He show you that, "No, I'm actually sitting right here. You are never alone"?
Jesikah Wells (12:16): I usually find that literally how the scripture says: lean not to your own understanding. That when I was going through is what I kept hearing Holy Spirit say. Because in my mind I'm like, "What is going on? This is nuts to me". Holy Spirit is "lean not to your own understanding." So what I personally do is I get quiet. I get quiet because our minds, the way that we are wired as humans, we're always thinking, we're always on the go. I'm a forward thinker, right? And sometimes that's to my own demise, because I'm always trying to figure out the next move.
Jesikah Wells (13:00): And I've learned in those moments when it's so much pressure, you feel like, "Okay, God is not here," I just quiet myself. I quiet my mind. I turn on my worship music. Or some SK Murray, some of his frequencies—444, the frequency of David. I turn on some of that and I just sit. I just sit and just allow the music to minister. And before you know it—I know me—sometimes I'm crying, sometimes I'm praising, but whatever it is, it's a release. But I have to get myself to just sit. I don't care—my kids know—I'm like, "Okay, if I just have to go in the restroom and close the door with my cell phone, just have a moment. Quiet my mind." When I come out, I'm a better person. I have the strength that I need. And I find myself saying, "Thank you, Lord, for your strength. It's not me, but it's your strength that is perfect".
Kristen Wambach (14:09): Yes, yes. Yeah, I don't know if you remember, but I have four adult sons. How many you have—three?
Jesikah Wells (14:16): Yeah, I have three. One adult son and then my middle and my baby boy—so all boys.
Kristen Wambach (14:26): No wonder we like pink so much.
Jesikah Wells (14:29): Yes! Poor moms. We're the best. I'm just kidding.
Kristen Wambach (14:34): I know, and it's true, you do have to just go in and close yourself behind those closed doors. I really affirm you because in my—with my four sons—I actually notice a little bit of a difference between my two older ones and my younger ones because I was a heck of a lot more transformed with the younger ones. My older ones we had to do more "I'm sorry" forgiveness stuff. Do you notice anything like that?
Jesikah Wells (15:12): Yeah, definitely. So my oldest is in college right now. And yes, definitely. He is the oldest child; he remembers everything. But he's also gotten to see me grow. So it's so cool when he calls me, he's like, "Mom, I see you're doing this, you're doing that. This is amazing." And I'm like, "Thank you". So he got to see the most of my journey from where I was to where I am today. And it's just—yeah, I see the difference. I know my baby boy is my praise partner. So he's the one that's like, "Mom, we believe God and let's just praise God together". But yeah, I definitely see that as well. He doesn't know previous mommy.
Kristen Wambach (15:59): Yes, and my older ones actually saw me doing the life application of forgiving, because they were right there in how God was developing that.
Jesikah Wells (16:18): Yeah. I think mine would be standing up for myself—no longer being a "yes girl" or being someone's doormat, you know? Especially my oldest, I know he's like, "Wow." I've heard him say it to his brothers, like, "Mom sacrificed a lot." And I'm like, "I didn't know that you noticed! I had no idea you were watching". So yeah, that would be mine.
Kristen Wambach (16:53): So as we're talking about it today, you referred to a "yes girl." What did that used to look like? What were some of the behaviors and how has that changed to where you have more beauty and self-respect and healthy boundaries? Can you kind of give us a "before" and where you are right now?
Jesikah Wells (17:18): Yes. So boundaries are a must, and it's something that, like we said, I'm teaching my two younger sons—that it's okay to have healthy boundaries. And it's a lesson that the Lord had to teach me: to stand up for myself. Don't just allow people to say and do whatever they want to you. Now, we do all things in peace and love—let's be clear—Jesus is our example. But there is a righteous way to stand up for yourself, and that's what the Lord had to literally show me by allowing these things to happen. It's like, "Hey, I want to blow up," and the Lord is like, "Be angry and sin not". And I'm like, "Okay, okay, so how am I supposed to navigate this, Lord?" "Be angry, but sin not." And to literally take it to Him, cast my cares on Him. "Lord, this is how I feel in this moment. This person betrayed me. This person lied on me. I'm angry, but I'm not gonna sin. I'm not gonna hate them. I'm not gonna curse them. I'm not gonna cause them physical harm. I'm giving it to you so that you can heal me so that I can be okay from this and get to that forgiveness," right, what you were talking about? So it's a process and yeah, the Lord had to teach me.
Kristen Wambach (18:53): I absolutely love what you said there, that you had to give it to Him, that you had to allow yourself to be angry. So that means that you were releasing the feeling and having that conversation with Holy Spirit about the feeling. Tell us how important that is for us to talk about how we feel with Holy Spirit.
Jesikah Wells (19:15): Yes. My gosh, it is so important. Like I said earlier, the Lord wants to be included. He wants to know how you feel. He knows, but He wants to be in the incident—He wants to be in the conversation. And when you take it—like you said, "Holy Spirit, look, this is how I am feeling"—and when you start disassociating the feeling from your personality. Just because I feel angry doesn't mean I'm an angry person, right? So I can not like what someone does to me without taking on that as my personality—"I'm just mean and don't like anybody" or "I'm snapping at everyone" like that. No. So you are entitled to have a feeling, whether it's sad, it's happy, it's mad—you can have it. There is nothing wrong with that, right? But it's what you do with it that matters. If you sit there and you pet it like a little pet on your lap and then it manifests and the next thing you know, you're cussing somebody out or getting into a physical altercation—come on. So yes, take it to the Lord in prayer. He means what He says when He says, "Vengeance is mine." He means it. He sees all, He knows all.
Kristen Wambach (20:49): Yes, yes, and He's so loving about it. I love where it makes me chuckle when you say, "Don't sit around and pet it like a little pet sitting on your lap". Those are the times that I have to catch myself from having the argument in my brain when it goes round and round and round, and I have a moment of surrender and go, "I have to identify I need help with this".
Jesikah Wells (21:28): Yeah, "I'm spending too much time here—too much time in this. Yeah, I need your help".
Kristen Wambach (21:32): "I need help. It needs to go away. It needs to be given to Him." And many times I have to ask Him, "And how do I release this to you"?
Jesikah Wells (21:48): Yeah, sometimes we do. "Okay, this is too much for me, Lord. In my finite mind, I need you to help me with this because I don't know how to let go." And that's okay, too. I promise you that He is a just God and He will take care of it. I promise you He will.
Kristen Wambach (22:14): I will agree with your statement there. One of my favorite personalities of Father God is Him as a righteous judge. Because I love taking my request to the throne of grace, to the courts of Heaven, and I love to know that I am going to get a judgment—and you just feel like you want to go, "That's my papa right there!" It's just one of my favorite of His personalities.
Jesikah Wells (22:29): Yes. I think the Hebrew is Jehovah Shafat—the Righteous Judge.
Kristen Wambach (22:36): Really?
Jesikah Wells (23:08): Yes. When I tell you nothing catches Him by surprise. But a lot of times—because I heard someone say that God is a "girl dad". He loves His daughters, okay? I mean, He loves His sons too, but we're just talking about daughters right now. So He is going to defend you, okay? He is going to be your vindicator, your protector. That's the type of Father you have. But you take it away from Him when you want to take it in your own hands: "Oh, I'm going to go on the internet and say this about this person," or "I'm going to start my own smear campaign". You take that away from Him. And now He has to deal with you. He's still going to do what He's going to do, but now He has to judge you for your actions. Just give it to Him; let Him be the good Father that He is.
Kristen Wambach (24:22): And Jessica, how have you built that conversation, that communication between you and Father God, so that you feel that conversation going back? How have you built that and developed that in your life?
Jesikah Wells (24:45): Honestly, it came from me feeling like I did not have anybody else. I was at a point in my life where I felt like no one understood me, no one was listening to me. And yeah, He was there. He revealed Himself to me during that time. And I talk about it on my show, how He visited me. And it's like ever since then, it has been, "That is my Father and I'm going to tell Him everything about me." I'm taking everything to Him because I know He loves me. So in building that relationship with Him, it has just been spending more time with Him, honestly. It first started out with reading my Word. So I set out to read the Word chronologically, because I wanted to read it like a story. And so I started reading the Word, and it felt like I had gotten stuck in the Old Testament. I'm like, "Why is it taking me so long in the Old Testament? I'm ready to get to the New Testament when Jesus is on the scene and the miracles are happening". And He's like, "You have to learn." So I was in the Old, just reading the Word. And as I would read the Word, He would speak and I would write in my journal what He says. And that's how I built it. One, I would know His voice from any other voice; two, I would know His character; and three, to trust Him. So yeah, spending more time with Him.
Kristen Wambach (26:40): Now, I know this about Jessica and I, we're both journaling, writing down, so we totally tooted the horn on that. But if I were to backtrack what you said is trust came because you listened and you wrote it down.
Jesikah Wells (27:03): Yes. I can go back to some journals now and see where He did what He said He was going to do four years ago, you know? And it's like, who wouldn't trust? Who wouldn't serve a God like that? He said it; He did it. And it's something about the writing and keeping a record. Especially as you're building that relationship with Him, He wants you to be able to come back. He even says to remind Him of His words. So if He said it, it's okay to come back in prayer and say, "Father, right here on this day, you told me that you were going to heal me from this. Your word says that your word will not return unto you void". He loves when we do that. He's like, "She was listening! She was paying attention. Okay, she's putting me in remembrance of my word. Let me act. Let me do what I said I was going to do".
Kristen Wambach (28:09): I'd say come on, girl!
Jesikah Wells (28:15): Yeah!
Kristen Wambach (28:15): Okay, and another—we're into the journaling and writing it down. Listeners, please don't roll your eyes at us. I learned to hear God's voice exactly in that manner of writing it down—and it's basically honoring when you honor what somebody says. I write down my husband's dreams, his visions; I can keep track of what God is doing. We have so much in common, and I know that there's another "in common" that we need to talk about: our huge to-do lists. Help us, Jesus, help us. How do you deal with your to-do lists and what they're constantly saying to you?
Jesikah Wells (29:29): The to-do list. Listen, it can get—there are moments when the to-do list is mundane. It's like you're doing the same thing, especially when you're a parent. "Okay, gotta get up, kids ready, work, cook, da-da-da-da-da." And then there's times when it's just like, "I gotta get this done, and this, and this, and this." And yeah, I have learned, one, to give myself grace. And like I said in the beginning, allow God into those spaces. A lot of times with hosting a show, working a job, having kids—it can be a lot. But there are times when I'm like, "Okay, Holy Spirit, help me because I can't do everything. There aren't so many hours in a day". And something will creatively come to mind that I didn't even think of that will eliminate some of the things off of my to-do list. Or things will happen to where something that I thought I had to get done—I no longer have to do it. So that's off the list and I can do something else. For me, that's how it works. I mean, I think the biggest thing is giving myself grace.
Jesikah Wells (31:06): I'm the type of woman, I love to cook and I love for my family to eat what I cook. But there are times when I'm like, "Okay, what are we going to eat for dinner?" I'm thinking about it, trying to make healthy decisions. And Holy Spirit is like, "You know what? Why don't you do this? Why don't you go grab one of those $7.99 rotisserie chickens"? Okay, that way you only have to make sides—or you can even get the sides now. Do that so you can go home and all you have to do is make it look nice and everybody can eat. And guess what? You don't have to stand over a stove for 45 minutes for prep and then an hour to cook. So just things like that—giving myself grace and "It's okay, Jessica. It's okay if I don't get to this today. It's okay".
Kristen Wambach (32:06): It is okay. And I've had to learn it; it is an ongoing lesson. It's about doing less to give yourself grace and prioritize—and remember to write yourself in on your own list.
Jesikah Wells (32:31): Yes, yes. I think I spoke with you about healing my central nervous system after the trials and the testing. So with that does come having time for myself where I just sit and I calm. I sip my tea—I'm a tea drinker—and just take care of Jessica. Take a nice hot bath and just rest. Just rest. Don't have to think about this person, that person, this thing. Just have time for yourself. Do what you love to do for yourself. If it's reading a book, fine; if it's listening to music, fine. Just be—to just be, you know?
Kristen Wambach (33:29): So we go from the journaling and writing it down to the to-do lists—just topping off like here's the whipped cream. We described ourselves where burnout or tiredness or that sense of being uncomfortable, of being unsettled, like it's not done. How do you help yourself and how do you help women discern the difference between regular work stress and feeling divinely unsettled? You know, it's just where you don't feel connected with God.
Jesikah Wells (34:27): Yeah. So when it's work stress or stress from the things around us, like I just said, the central nervous system will be out of whack—weight gain, hair loss, a whole lot of things. Physically, you'll notice subtle signs—even just being overly tired, brain fog. That's when it's those things—work, the elements of the world. When it is not being settled for Christ, more than likely it's something that He wants you to do, but it's not going to cause you to have these effects on your body. When it's Christ, you will feel unsettled, but there's a peace that you have on the inside, okay? It may be unnerving to do what He's asked you to do, but it's that peace that blankets it.
Jesikah Wells (35:53): So I can attest to when I moved away from North Carolina, I moved to Maryland. It was just me and my boys—just us, no help, just us. Let me stress that: just us. This was almost three years ago now. So that was so nerve-wracking and unnerving. I'm like, "Lord, what is this?" But the entire time as I loaded up and I hitched a U-Haul to my truck—mind you, I'm a girly girl, I've never done anything like this in my life—but I hitched that U-Haul. And as I was driving, I just felt the peace of God. Like I knew that this is what I'm supposed to be doing. It was unnerving, stressful, but I had that peace that surpasses all understanding. I think that's the difference. When it's other things, there's no peace; it's just stress. And your body will tell you—you have to listen to your body. I've been blessed to find a Christian herbalist—if you know, you know—and she even has little scriptures on her stuff! But things like that help to realign that central nervous system where you're not overeating. Like I said, listen to your body. When it's from the Lord, you don't have those side effects. You may be nervous, you may have a giddy-up moment like, "Lord, show me again because I don't know if I want to do this," but it will be a peace that comes with it.
Kristen Wambach (37:45): Peace it comes with it, and also the feeling of the anointing. Because we are both mouthpieces, we both have podcasts, we're world changers—meaning that what we bring to the table is supposed to corporately change the world in which we live. And it takes grace and commitment to open your mouth, to stick that microphone down there, when on the side you don't feel like it.
Jesikah Wells (38:23): Yeah. My goodness. If I had a dollar for each time I did not feel like turning on record, didn't feel like saying what He wanted me to say, just because of the natural stresses of life. But immediately when I begin to speak, I feel the presence of the Holy Spirit. And that lets me know that I'm doing what He called me to do. And it's almost like an energy rush. I'm just like, "My gosh, I'm excited. I'm happy." Getting here looked like, "What am I gonna wear? Am I gonna do my makeup? What does my hair look like?" just slouching around. But when the Holy Spirit comes, it's like, "My gosh, I could do about two or three more shows right after this, or I can go online and speak this word".
Kristen Wambach (39:30): Yeah, yeah. One of the things that God brought to your attention is "empty-handed prayer," and you shared a powerful moment where God said, "You don't want an answer; you didn't bring your journal or pen." We're still talking about writing it down—would you tell us more about that story?
Jesikah Wells (39:53): Yes. So we talked about taking it to Him, right? And with that, I had to ask—when the Lord started revealing His purpose for my life, I had to ask Him those hard questions: "Okay, Lord, am I going to be a wife again? Am I going to have more children? Do you want this for my life?" And it's kind of like you just start asking those questions. And the Lord got me—let me tell you, we like to think about relationship with Christ like it's just the rainbow. He gets me together, okay? He's that type of Father, too. He's not going to have me out here just doing whatever I want to do because He's my Father. No. He literally said, "Listen, you don't want to answer from me. You didn't even bring your journal. You just want somebody to listen to you, basically, because you didn't bring anything to write. So what do you want me to say?" I got up and I got my journal. And then He just started flowing—everything. So I'm writing as He speaks, and I'm like, "My gosh". That was in that relationship building phase. He's like, "You can't just come to me and not expect for me to answer." And sometimes in that, it's sitting. Sometimes He doesn't answer immediately. Sometimes it's you let Him know and just sit for a minute—just sit and wait. Yeah, He got me together on that, Kristen, for sure. "You just gonna come to me with all these problems? Do you want a solution or not?" Yeah, write it down.
Kristen Wambach (41:43): Because there will be a strategy when you're writing it down, then you have room for writing down strategies. "What does it feel like? What was the intent? What was the emotion going on when I heard Him say?" Because sometimes emotion and the feeling gives the frequency of God, and that's how you remember it—how you feel.
Jesikah Wells (42:06): Yeah, it all comes into account. I was at a ministry opportunity and I was just about to pray with this young lady and she said she had a dream about her brother, and in the dream, her brother had died. So what I asked her was, "Okay, that doesn't necessarily mean that he's gonna physically die. How did you feel when he died?" She said, "I didn't feel sad." I said, "So more than likely, if you did not feel sad, that's a spiritual death. The Lord is calling him to die to his flesh. It's a good thing". And she was just so relieved. And I told her the same thing: "Get you a journal. Write down your dreams. Write how you felt, the colors—everything that you see, write it down".
Kristen Wambach (43:25): And a lot of times what I'll do is I will find images and pictures that are the same of what He had in the dream and I'll put it in—I'm such a visual person, it helps to remember it. I will draw it out: "This is the way it felt and this is where the Lord took me." So yes, it is so good and so important.
Jesikah Wells (43:55): Yeah, it is. It is everything. He's intentional; He really is. He doesn't leave anything out. If He puts it there, He's going to use it. Sometimes, just like the scripture says, "It's the glory of God to conceal a thing, and the honor of kings to search it out". Sometimes we have to search it out. There are times where I had to wait, then times I had to fast and pray, then times where He gives it to me and I have to search it out: "Okay, Lord, what are you saying in this?" And I have to go to His word and see what He is really saying. And Holy Spirit will guide you right to where you need to be. Sometimes He gives us these things to search—write it down so that you can refer back to it, because it may be something later on in that same day and you're like, "Wait a minute, I saw this in my dream!"
Kristen Wambach (45:19): I agree. And I love that scripture that you shared with us, and I get real excited with it because if it's something that sets me into seeking to find, I know He's speaking to a king, because the kings that search out a matter—so that tells you how God is speaking to you. So good.
Jesikah Wells (45:51): Yes. Royalty. Royalty. My goodness.
Kristen Wambach (46:06): Jessica, before we go there, would you tell our listeners where they can find you, where they can hear your podcast and all about all those goodies?
Jesikah Wells (46:33): Yes. My podcast is the Broken to Beautiful podcast. It is on YouTube and also on every podcast streaming platform. I am currently about to launch my new season coming this spring, so you may want to go ahead and catch up. And yeah, I'm on Instagram as well as the Broken to Beautiful podcast. That's how you can get in touch with me—my link tree, my email, all of those things are there. Join me there.
Kristen Wambach (47:12): Fantastic. Would you pray for us? I'm going to add a few things into that prayer—there are single moms, young moms that feel like, "I know I'm supposed to make a difference in the world. Where do I begin? How do I start?" And also, there's a season when we're walking through a hard season—it could be a medical issue, it could literally be working through a project that has taken so much of your time that you just need that prayer to get you through. So those are two things.
Jesikah Wells (48:15): Yeah. So Father God, we thank you for this moment in time that you have brought Kristen and I together. I thank you for her listeners, her audience, those that are under the sound of her voice. Lord God, I ask that you will touch each and every last one of them, that you will touch them in the places that they are afraid to share with anyone else, God, and that you will heal them with your love. In the name of Jesus, Father, I ask that you give them the strength to endure whatever the trial is, because your strength is made perfect in our weakness. So Father, I ask that you give them your strength. I ask, God, that you give them what they stand in need of. Show them who you are. You are a good Father, even in uncertain times, even in the warfare. You want the best, Lord God, for your daughters. Lord God, I pray for those who don't know how or where to begin again, and I pray that they find you in that. I pray for their seek—that they will begin to seek you like never before in their words and in their prayers looking for you. I thank you, Lord God. And I pray for their clarity as well—that they be not deceived, that they will hear you in the fullness of who you are and be able to distinguish your will for their lives. I thank you because you are a good God. I praise your righteous and holy name. In Jesus' name, amen.
Kristen Wambach (50:35): Amen. Yay. Thank you so much. May I share with you what I was seeing in the Spirit when you were praying? And listeners, when I share something like this, it is a corporate thought from God. And while Jessica was praying, I saw like the wind coming behind her voice and blowing papers—papers all across the world. And when I feel those papers, I feel like they're documents—they're words that people are looking for. So when Jessica prayed, these words were being released for you here and in documents. Maybe you're trying to buy a home or buy a business or something—you need that legal transaction, that documentation to transfer that. Maybe it's a document for a diagnosis that is being changed—that a prescription from Heaven is literally blown to you today. Just allow your imagination to imagine the wind of Holy Spirit blowing to you the answer that you desire.
Jesikah Wells (52:09): Yes. My gosh, that is so good. You know, that brought back something. I was in prayer this morning and just decreeing and declaring what God said over my life. And I saw the angel of the Lord had an envelope with a seal, and the seal was blue. So, like I said, we have to take account of everything, right? He's definitely sending it out—sending out His documents.
Kristen Wambach (52:52): Yes, yes. Jessica, this has been such a great night. And I want to share these little goodies: Jessica is very talented with graphics. If you go and look at her design, there is so much creativity there and she presents it so wonderful.
Jesikah Wells (53:28): Thank you, thank you so much. Look, it's all God—my creative side.
Kristen Wambach (53:32): Well, then I like the God in you; I like all of it! Yay, thank you so much for being with us today. Thank you for blessing us, and I thank you that the wind that was blowing through you first had to go through you to provide for the things that you've been asking.
Jesikah Wells (53:55): Yeah, God is so good. Thank you for having me, Kristen. It was so fun; it was such a joy. You know I love you anyway—you are my sister!
Kristen Wambach (54:06): There we are. Okay. Thank you so much.

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The Obsession in the Details

One of the most striking moments of our conversation was realizing that God isn't just a "big picture" God; He is obsessed with the details. Jesikah shared how a simple blazer, forgotten in the back of a closet, became a divine appointment starter. In the Kingdom, there is no such thing as a mundane detail. Whether it’s the shoes you wear to stand in your calling or the way you conduct a "Monday-morning" meeting, Jesus is in the jots and the tittles of your restoration.

Fire Doesn't Destroy; It Redefines

When things burn to ash, we assume the DNA is gone. But in the hands of the Father, fire is a refining tool. Jesikah noted that many women spend their energy missing who they were before the tragedy. Holy Spirit corrected that logic: You aren't missing who you were; you are finally discovering who you are in Him. The fire didn't take your identity; it burned away the "yes-girl" mannerisms and the doormat mentalities that were never part of your original design.

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The Strategy of the Journal

If you want an answer from Heaven, you have to show up like you expect one. Jesikah shared a convicting word from the Lord: "You don’t want an answer... you didn't even bring your journal or pen". To honor God’s voice is to record it. Restoration requires a record—not just of where you’ve been, but of the strategies He is whispering for your future.

If you are standing in a field of ashes today, know this: The wind of the Holy Spirit is blowing. He is releasing documents, prescriptions, and business opportunities over your life right now. You are never alone, you are never unseen, and you are far from finished.

Coaching Church Activation

​Your 'Monday-morning' activation is this: Don't go to Him empty-handed this week. Take your journal, take your pen, and expect an answer. Even if you have to hide behind a closed bathroom door for five minutes to find your quiet, know that the wind of the Holy Spirit is blowing across the documents of your life—changing diagnoses, opening business doors, and sealing your future in His peace.

Final Summary

In this powerful conclusion to our journey from brokenness to beauty, Jesikah Wells reminds us that the "fires" of life are not meant for our destruction, but for our refinement. We learned that fire doesn't destroy your spiritual DNA; it redefines it, moving you from a season of "missing who you were" to the radical discovery of who you are in the heart of the Father. Whether it is through the "Closet Strategy" of finding God in the mundane details or the conviction to end "empty-handed prayer" by picking up a pen, this episode provides a practical blueprint for anyone standing in a field of ashes.
As we close, let your imagination connect with the prophetic vision of the wind of the Holy Spirit blowing across your life—releasing business doors, legal answers, and restoration documents that have been signed and sealed in Heaven. Remember, you are never alone, never unseen, and your story is far from finished. It is time to walk boldly into the new realm God has prepared for you.

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